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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #60 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:00pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
I know.  There is a big difference.

Question: Who do you think Trump is suggesting be shot in that statement?

Why do you think that the only thing "second amendment people" know how to do is shoot people?


It co I ld be twisted that way.

At best he is making a joke about assassination
  

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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #61 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:01pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
Sarcasm is lost on you as well as truth I see.

It's obvious that trump suggested that second amendment people had means that other people lacked... I wonder what that could be... Like guns maybe!!!  Roll Eyes


The topic at hand was the second amendment!  So, in the area of defending the second amendment, the second amendment people would have all sorts of things that other people lacked -- arguments, legal funds and groups, lobbyists, connections to politicians that could block or create legislation, knowledge and deeper understanding of the issues surrounding the second amendment than the average person, etc. etc. etc.

If the topic at hand was the idea that Clinton, hypothetically, wanted to do away with the fourth amendment, and Trump were to say that the fourth amendment people might have something they could do to stop her, he would not be referring to their strong ability to be secretive about their papers and property.  He would be referring to the fact that there are people that have focused a lot of effort on protecting the fourth amendment and would have the political connections, knowledge and understanding, funding mechanisms, legal arguments, and lobbying power to work against the, hypothetical, Clinton effort to abolish the fourth amendment.

Also, you didn't answer the question.  Who would he be expecting them to shoot?
  
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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #62 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:03pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:00pm:
It co I ld be twisted that way.

At best he is making a joke about assassination


You also didn't answer the questions.  See above.
  
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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #63 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:10pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
The topic at hand was the second amendment!  So, in the area of defending the second amendment, the second amendment people would have all sorts of things that other people lacked -- arguments, legal funds and groups, lobbyists, connections to politicians that could block or create legislation, knowledge and deeper understanding of the issues surrounding the second amendment than the average person, etc. etc. etc.

If the topic at hand was the idea that Clinton, hypothetically, wanted to do away with the fourth amendment, and Trump were to say that the fourth amendment people might have something they could do to stop her, he would not be referring to their strong ability to be secretive about their papers and property.  He would be referring to the fact that there are people that have focused a lot of effort on protecting the fourth amendment and would have the political connections, knowledge and understanding, funding mechanisms, legal arguments, and lobbying power to work against the, hypothetical, Clinton effort to abolish the fourth amendment.

Also, you didn't answer the question.  Who would he be expecting them to shoot?



There's nothing in your post that needs to be untold.

Why does he suggest that there MAYBE something that they could do if it was any of this. He would just have said it just as you did.

The only way trump's cryptic remark makes sense, as a cryptic remark that is, is if it is something that's either shameful or illegal.

So which is it? Does he suggest massive flashing? I don't think so. 
  

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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #64 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:15pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
You also didn't answer the questions.  See above.


Clinton

But as I said a joke, or a poor attempt at one
  

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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #65 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:26pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:15pm:
Clinton

But as I said a joke, or a poor attempt at one



He probably intended this as a joke and realized too late that it was a very bad one  and that's why he  didn't expand on it. As often, his own  mouth was his worst enemy, too bad people didn't listen to what he said more attentively. Same thing with Hitler, people were sensitive to his emotionalism more than to his words.
  

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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #66 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 6:54pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:10pm:
There's nothing in your post that needs to be untold.

Why does he suggest that there MAYBE something that they could do if it was any of this. He would just have said it just as you did.


He was giving a speech and speaking "off the cuff".  He does this regularly.  He vaguely references various possibilities without being specific.  Most of the time it is probably because he is severely lacking in the knowledge of what he is talking about.  This seems to pretty clearly be one of those cases.  He has no clue about the deeply involved arguments, lobbying capabilities and political maneuvers that the second amendment people know.  He isn't one of them.  All he knows is to make sure to say NRA=good and gun rights shouldn't be infringed.  He doesn't seem to have much of a clue beyond that.

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The only way trump's cryptic remark makes sense, as a cryptic remark that is, is if it is something that's either shameful or illegal.


Maybe change your premise.  Look at it not as a cryptic remark, but as a remark from a guy who doesn't know what he is talking about.

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So which is it? Does he suggest massive flashing? I don't think so. 


No he suggests people might be able to prevent Clinton from abolishing the second amendment.

billy.pilgrim wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 4:15pm:
Clinton

But as I said a joke, or a poor attempt at one


So he jokingly suggested that after Clinton is elected people might be able to shoot her, because that would stop her from abolishing the second amendment?

On the one hand we have to assume he is so cunning as to speak in this very cryptic language about killing someone while standing in front of cameras and a crowd of people, yet also so dumb as to think that shooting her would some how stop such an agenda...that her being gone would mean her VP somehow wouldn't do the same thing?
  
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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #67 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:31pm
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I took his statement to mean that people that support the 2nd should VOTE against Hillary. VOTE AGAINST NOT SHOOT AT Angry
  
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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #68 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:44pm
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USyeah wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I took his statement to mean that people that support the 2nd should VOTE against Hillary. VOTE AGAINST NOT SHOOT AT Angry


And any reference to cement over shoes should be taken to mean creating jobs in the cement industry
  

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Re: The Message to Republicans: Drop Trump or we'll kill you!
Reply #69 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:56pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
And any reference to cement over shoes should be taken to mean creating jobs in the cement industry


yep that's the same thing  Cheesy



  
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