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Re: FACT: THIS IS PART OF RUSSIA AND ITS GOVERNMENT'S SUPPORT FOR MR. TRUMP
Reply #30 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:02am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:44am:
Ahh... the NEW company line.  Before last week, it was "Show me ANY evidence of Trump collusion with Russia".  This week it's "Show anything they did was illegal".

LOL!!!  Keep on moving the goalpost...

Greg


No, the claim from the start is that Trumps win was illegitimate because he colluded with the Russians to get it. There is no evidence of that being the case. So the Don Jr. situation comes up and is treated as the long needed evidence, to prove that Clinton was indeed kept from the White House via Trump-Russia collusion. The big problem with this is that Don Jr. didn't get the Clinton dirt, the person who contacted him claimed would be disclosed at the meeting. Trump could not have used information to impact Hillary's campaign that he didn't even receive.   
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Reply #31 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:06am
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glen65 wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:41pm:
You would be hard pressed to find anyone in this level of politics to turn down the same offer that was given Jr. Does anyone really think that Clinton wouldn't jump on this same offer if it pertained to Trump? You bet she would, and it wouldn't have been illegal for her to do so, nor was it illegal for Don Jr.   


We know that Hillary is corrupt and that the DNC or Hillary would have and probably did do the same sort of thing.

It actually would be illegal.  They intended to receive and use information that they knew was stolen by foreign spies.  How do you not understand this?

And we don't actually know if they received any information or not, what the information entailed, or what not.  They could very well be lying about that.  One person there is stating that information was left behind, others are saying no.

It needs to be investigated but it definitely doesn't look good for the Trump team.
  

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But, but, but....but Hillary, but Lynch, but Obama, but Boosh, but Clinton!
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Reply #32 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:17am
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Lomelis wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:06am:
We know that Hillary is corrupt and that the DNC or Hillary would have and probably did do the same sort of thing.

It actually would be illegal.  They intended to receive and use information that they knew was stolen by foreign spies.  How do you not understand this?

And we don't actually know if they received any information or not, what the information entailed, or what not.  They could very well be lying about that.  One person there is stating that information was left behind, others are saying no.

It needs to be investigated but it definitely doesn't look good for the Trump team.


I wasn't talking about Clinton's other affairs that others are harping on. I'm simply saying that in the same circumstances she wouldn't be breaking law, and neither was Don Jr.

  
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Reply #33 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:29am
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glen65 wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:17am:
I wasn't talking about Clinton's other affairs that others are harping on. I'm simply saying that in the same circumstances she wouldn't be breaking law, and neither was Don Jr.



Are you seriously saying that knowingly engaging with foreign entities and spies in order receive likely stolen information is legal?
  

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Reply #34 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:05am
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Lomelis wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 1:29am:
Are you seriously saying that knowingly engaging with foreign entities and spies in order receive likely stolen information is legal?


He accepted a meeting with an attorney who was Russian.
Jr. didn't accept a meeting with a foreign nation. Plus she  left him empty handed anyway. As you mentioned earlier  the situation wont look good for the Trump team. But unless something else significant develops, this wont amount to much more than bad political optics.
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:12am
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glen65 wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:05am:
Jr. didn't accept a meeting with a foreign nation.

WRONG.
This was in the email sent to him before the meeting:
>>>> THIS IS PART OF RUSSIA AND ITS GOVERNMENT'S SUPPORT FOR MR. TRUMP
Seriously, what is your dysfunction? Reading comprehension or what?
  

A rare moment of candid truth from NorthKoreanFrogmanInvasion(!!), ReeweeWittoBwain:   RWB wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:32am:
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Reply #36 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:30am
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How much value did this information on Hillary have?
  

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Reply #37 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:41am
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The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:30am:
How much value did this information on Hillary have?

We have no idea what information was actually exchanged because Trump Jr has repeatedly lied about the meeting.
  

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Reply #38 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:49am
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Vypr wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:41am:
We have no idea what information was actually exchanged because Trump Jr has repeatedly lied about the meeting.

If we don't know what information (if any) was given to Trump then we can't put a value on it therefore we can't say he broke the law.
  

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Reply #39 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:55am
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The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:49am:
If we don't know what information (if any) was given to Trump then we can't put a value on it therefore we can't say he broke the law.

I am not arguing at this point whether he broke the law. Let others do that. I am establishing a few facts based on Trump Jr's own email trail and what he has said since:
1. Russia was trying to actively help the Trump campaign
2. The Trump campaign leadership was willing to engage the Russian govt for help
3. The Trump campaign KNEW this was the Russian govt. It was stated clearly in Jr's e-mail trail.
4. Trump Jr. has lied multiple times about this meeting.
  

A rare moment of candid truth from NorthKoreanFrogmanInvasion(!!), ReeweeWittoBwain:   RWB wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:32am:
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