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Re: Answers in Genesis
Reply #30 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:39pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:33pm:
If you weren't a child you would know your limits, but you don't, you think you are qualified enough to evaluate the likelihood of a theory of which you know next to nothing (and I feel like I am being generous here, considering the stupid assumptions that you keep making). You are as arrogant as you are an ignorant. You only know of these theories through extremely simplified versions, written specifically for people like you who know nothing of the sciences. You are like a child that has been given a toy car and pretends to know everything about the real car based on the toy.

"Look I can melt this plastic car with a match and that means that the real one will melt too, in the exact same way!"

Do you understand how ridiculous your speculations are?

And that goes double for seewolf.


Struck a nerve, did I?
  

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Reply #31 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:45pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
You didn't read it, did you?



Yes, I did.  And I found more of that smug self-righteousness that I find so off-putting from believers and non-believers alike.
  

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Reply #32 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:54pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
You are the arrogant one. You speculate about a theory you know nothing of. You really can't get worse than that.

I don't know the first thing about heart surgery but if I behaved like you I would walk up to the first heart surgeon I could find and tell him his chances of succeeding in performing a quadruple bypass on his patient. And cosmology is at least as complex as heart surgery and you know even less about cosmology than I do about heart surgery.


And yet more of it. Plus a piss poor analogy.  G'day, mate.
  

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Reply #33 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:09pm
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EF wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
And yet more of it. Plus a piss poor analogy.  G'day, mate.


Next time you wish to "speculate" about the chances of the big bang you'd better choose an audience as ignorant as you.
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Reply #34 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:22pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:09pm:
Next time you wish to "speculate" about the chances of the big bang you'd better choose an audience as ignorant as you.


What?  I accept the big bang.
  

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Reply #35 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:44pm
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Limey wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:35am:
Good post.

Except for the highlighted part (is that thing copyright?  Do I owe Stu some money?).


Oversimplified because small phone not proper keyboard.

Not intended to be insulting or patronising.

Your Option 2 is not less or more likely -so far as I can work out,  we don't have any way to judge.

So in a sense,  neither option would win a "which requires disbelief to be suspended higher" contest.



However,  there's a possibility that saying "God did it" can be a cop out.

I like the kind of believer who can accept such thing as evolution by taking a less literal approach to Scripture.  You aren't alone but are you in a majority?

I'd rather leave doors wedged open. Science doesn't know and may never know.

Religion doesn't know and will never know.


Science is the better option.


So I get a 50/50 from you.  I kind of figured I'd get at least that from you, if not an admission that to think something came from nothing absent an "intelligent designer" required slightly more suspension of disbelief.  Not much more, maybe, but more. 
  

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Re: Answers in Genesis
Reply #36 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:36pm
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EF wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
If they were mutually exclusive. But they're not.


You're right.

But sadly a lot of believers would exclude science.


I realise I am not debating this with one of them.
  

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Reply #37 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:59pm
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Limey wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
You're right.

But sadly a lot of believers would exclude science.


I realise I am not debating this with one of them.


You certainly aren't.  I don't debate it with them, either. I avoid the topic.
  

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Reply #38 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 4:51pm
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EF wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:22pm:
What?  I accept the big bang.


The naked singularity you were speaking of... IS PART OF THE BIG BANG THEORY!!!!
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Answers in Genesis
Reply #39 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:02pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
The naked singularity you were speaking of... IS PART OF THE BIG BANG THEORY!!!!



Yeah, and in Elmer's version (supported by some impressive people) you can have God And a big bang.


Personally I am prepared to keep the dogs off these guys and girls, if they can control their science deniers.


One day, potentially, we can have a moment where an undeniable God appears and makes me look like a total dick.


Or, and, a scientist might explain everything.




Silly to close doors.


I will speak to God on your behalf if the embarrassing thing is in place.


Wow that would be an awkward moment.




I mean, here's me, nice, honest, decent, kind, and He will be happy to send me to eternal torment by fire. While my sweet little children and my loving wife go to eternal peace, knowing that I am in torment and screaming every second of their joy, for ever.

They can never be with their Dad or husband. For eternity.

Oh well.
  

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