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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #20 - Aug 25th, 2017 at 3:45am
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EF wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
You already tried that.  Didn't stick.  You failed to get the lobotomy.



You didn't.
  

Non sequitur:

The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #21 - Aug 25th, 2017 at 8:58pm
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BowHunter wrote on Aug 25th, 2017 at 3:40am:
Testimony is strongly influenced by belief and education as anyone who's not a simpleton would know. In fact most of the time if you remove undue influence due to belief and education from one's testimony,  you're left with nothing.

Which is pretty much what we get from you, nothing but ill-informed opinion.


You really are an angry little man, aren't you? Why else would you have stalked me all around the forum for a few days?

Note the recurrent passive aggressiveness I was speaking of before.


There are more than a billion of Catholics that disagree with you. They'll testify to that. Grin

What you really mean is that your prejudices are different from theirs but since you think of yourself as some sort of supreme authority. That's not how you'll formulate it regardless of how deceptive and dishonest it is, which speaks well of your personal integrity.


All of which confirms my assessment of you in another thread.

Nanu nanu!
  

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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #22 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 9:52am
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EF wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:56am:
Won't be hard at all for me.  No one filled His head with lies.  He was God incarnate, fully man and fully God at the same time.  His mother had no sex with a man until after His birth.  He probably would be known today as a nut and He was at that time, too, by more than a few.


Have we locked away a 2nd Jesus?
  

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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #23 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 9:55am
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BowHunter wrote on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 6:06pm:
According to the bible god makes bets with Satan. I wouldn't be surprised if he had him over for dinner once in a while.

The Jewish god made a bet with Satan on time. He proved that after he turned a mans life into a living hell he would still believe and worship him.
Did you know Satan is gay?
  

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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #24 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 10:50am
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 8:57pm:
He, his mother, or did someone else fill his head with lies?

He was not a god, nor a son of a god. Did he come up with that story or did his mother do that to him? She had sex with a man, got pregnant with him and raised him in a lie?
Or was he what would be known today as a nut?

It will be hard for the religious to answer this. But Im sure they can help my question to be more simple.




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Reply #25 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 11:04am
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EF wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:56am:
Won't be hard at all for me.  No one filled His head with lies.  He was God incarnate, fully man and fully God at the same time.  His mother had no sex with a man until after His birth.  He probably would be known today as a nut and He was at that time, too, by more than a few.



You're full of lies. His mother NEVER had sex, neither before nor after he was born. That is why she's called the VIRGIN Mary. Some religious nut, even I know more than you do!
  

Non sequitur:

The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #26 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 1:18pm
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BowHunter wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 11:04am:
You're full of lies. His mother NEVER had sex, neither before nor after he was born. That is why she's called the VIRGIN Mary. Some religious nut, even I know more than you do!


Well thinking she got knocked up without having sex is more foolish.
  

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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #27 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 6:46pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 9:52am:
Have we locked away a 2n d Jesus?



Possibly 2nd through 256th.....
  

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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #28 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm
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Except we have testimony of his resurrection and appearing before his disciples.  I can already hear you say that it was a lie agreed upon by his disciples.  The problem is that ten of his disciples refuse to rescind their claims with the threat of a horrible death, all refused to say otherwise.  They died horribly for what they witnessed.  I simply can not believe even one of them would die as they did for a lie.  There were witnesses outside the authors of the Bible who speak of Jesus so even history does not claim he never existed.
  


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Re: Who really caused Jesus to be murdered.
Reply #29 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 2:45pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Except we have testimony of his resurrection and appearing before his disciples.  I can already hear you say that it was a lie agreed upon by his disciples.  The problem is that ten of his disciples refuse to rescind their claims with the threat of a horrible death, all refused to say otherwise.  They died horribly for what they witnessed.  I simply can not believe even one of them would die as they did for a lie.  There were witnesses outside the authors of the Bible who speak of Jesus so even history does not claim he never existed.


There should be no question in the mind of any reasonable person that the man Jesus existed, and that that man claimed to be the Son of God, and that that man was crucified.  I can see reasonable people doubting that He was who He claimed to be, but not that He existed and did make that claim.  But no one will ever be argued into believing His claim.  That comes only by the work of God.  I certainly don't have all the answers and frankly ignore people who claim they do (or even claim they have MOST of them) because I know better.  They don't.  I recognize that the nature of God is such that no one in a mortal body can understand it.  And there is no point or profit in a deep discussion of it with non-believers.  The Book even says so.  The chapter I have the hardest time with is the 9th Chapter of Romans.  The doctrine I have the hardest time with is the doctrine of election.  And not even Billy Graham, IMO, has a really good grasp of either that chapter or that doctrine. 
  

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