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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #20 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:22am
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Luther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:15am:
Let's stop all your BS Wally

Trump, had the power on day one to end it and did not . Oh... yes sir!!!!!

Are you with me so far? 

125,000 got work permits from Jan to June 9th. It's now Sep 3


http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/06/09/daca-amnesty-continues-under-tru...

Trump has the power to launch a preemptive strike on N Korea, that doesn't mean that it would be in his best interest to do so.   Sex and politics are very similar; both significantly depend upon timing for a successful outcome!

Given the opposition by the media and everyone else involved in the Resist Movement, doing too much too fast is not a good idea.  The "Dreamers" issue is as much as a red herring as the Trumped up racist America, the Russian collusion story  and the transgenders in the military are.  Such time bombs will have to be dealt with, but they are designed to cause explosions which damage the real CHANGES which have to occur!
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #21 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:42am
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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:22am:
Trump has the power to launch a preemptive strike on N Korea, that doesn't mean that it would be in his best interest to do so.   Sex and politics are very similar; both significantly depend upon timing for a successful outcome!

Given the opposition by the media and everyone else involved in the Resist Movement, doing too much too fast is not a good idea.  The "Dreamers" issue is as much as a red herring as the Trumped up racist America, the Russian collusion story  and the transgenders in the military are.  Such time bombs will have to be dealt with, but they are designed to cause explosions which damage the real CHANGES which have to occur!



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Trump has the power to launch a preemptive strike on N Korea, that doesn't mean that it would be in his best interest to do so.   Sex and politics are very similar; both significantly depend upon timing for a successful outcome!


What a bunch of Bull chit! Shocked Roll Eyes

DAY ONE Wally!

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Given the opposition by the media


So Trump does care about the media?   Trump is not a politician remember? Grin

Boy, you sure can tell the difference between a conservative from Idaho(me) and you a so called conservative from what is it ... NY? Shocked
  

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Reply #22 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 2:49pm
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 5:36am:
Gosh - does the fact that we have tens of millions of unemployed figure into this? 


The fact is that we have 7.1 million not tens of millions.  First thing first.  Get the facts right.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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We've got 1/3 of a billion people - why isn't that enough? 


I can easily ask why so few?  You seem to be suggesting much more than simply limiting immigration, but limiting population growth in general.

Should we also move to a 1 child per family policy like in China?


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Why do we need more people?   


We don't -need- more people anymore than we -need- to limit immigration.  I know that this is about control for you, like a true statist you want to control population and everything else for the good of everyone rather than allowing individuals to make their own decisions.

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How exactly are the illegal Mexicans who make up one third of the vast California prison "competitive"? 


They aren't competitive because they are locked away, just like the other 2/3's that are citizens locked away.

No shit sherlock of course people aren't going to be competitive when locked away.
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #23 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 2:53pm
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crepe05 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 5:41am:
How did you arrive at your "code" assumption?

We can follow our immigration laws to find the "hard working, competitive people" who are  needed.  It's a simple, basic concept; follow the law.


It's not an assumption.  One of the key arguments against immigration (legal or illegal) has been that it causes increased job competition which can undermine wages and increase unemployment.
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #24 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 2:57pm
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Luther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 6:50am:
This is how you do it my little naive libertarian fellow. How about the most extensive immigration study ever? Wink




Lol, you can't be serious.

It ignores population changes, technological advances, economic growth, etc.

No Luther, the correct answer is it is impossible to put a number on it.
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #25 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm
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Lomelis wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 2:57pm:
Lol, you can't be serious.

It ignores population changes, technological advances, economic growth, etc.

No Luther, the correct answer is it is impossible to put a number on it.



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What do you think the most extensive immigration study covers? Roll Eyes

I'm very serious because all of those concerns were brought up back in 1995 Roll Eyes

And the Pubs and  dims just ignored them

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Reply #26 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:07pm
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Luther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm:
What do you think the most extensive immigration study covers? Roll Eyes

I'm very serious because all of those concerns were brought up back in 1995 Roll Eyes

And the Pubs and  dims just ignored them

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You seriously want to rely on a study that is over 20 years old?

Like I said you can't be serious.
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #27 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:08pm
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Luther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm:
I'm very serious because all of those concerns were brought up back in 1995 Roll Eyes


So you have known since 1995 that there is no way to calculate the "ideal" level of immigration?

Wow.

What happened?
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #28 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:17pm
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Luther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:42am:
What a bunch of Bull chit! Shocked Roll Eyes

DAY ONE Wally!


So Trump does care about the media?   Trump is not a politician remember? Grin

Boy, you sure can tell the difference between a conservative from Idaho(me) and you a so called conservative from what is it ... NY? Shocked

Rather than a Conservative you have continually shown that your blind hatred of Donald Trump makes you little more than a zealot with a loud mouth who's not afraid to use it!  Grin Grin
  

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Re: Evict the "dreamers"
Reply #29 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:23pm
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Lomelis wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 4:07pm:
You seriously want to rely on a study that is over 20 years old?

Like I said you can't be serious.



You missed the point  Roll Eyes

Went right over your head Wink
  

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