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Reply #10 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:48am
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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:23am:
The Libs all just want to murder them in their mother's womb.  Far more 'compassionate'!


I modified my post, it was a little harsh, sorry.

You're confusing two separate things here.

One is the subject of the thread, that is, what are appropriate punishments for juveniles.

The other is your partisan, shrill screeching about the unrelated topic, abortion.

Try to focus.
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:49am
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Capt. Lola B.S.C. wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:30am:
No kid is ever raised the same way, what a ridiculous statement.  Even children in the same household, raised by the same parents can have varied upbringings. On top of that, each individual person has there own set of mitigating circumstances that the court will take into account.

In essence, the SCOTUS decided it was true that children are different than adults and can not be held to the same standard lest we run afoul of the 8th amendment. 

Incidentally or on purpose, it's a biblical idea to begin with and should be adopted by any nation daring to call itself Christian.

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.  1 Corinthians 13:11


Lol, watch the conservatives deny the Bible.
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:02am
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Limey wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:49am:
Lol, watch the conservatives deny the Bible.


Maybe this will finally convince Seawolf it's all rubbish.    Grin

P.S. To be fair, there is a great deal I like in the bible like the above passage in Corinthians, mostly the warm and fuzzy bits.   Wink
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Reply #13 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:27am
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walkstall wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:58am:
Some other Nations just off them. 



Your desire to be as iniquitous as other nations is noted.

  
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Limey wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:49am:
Lol, watch the conservatives deny the Bible.


Why should today be any different?

  
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Reply #15 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:43am
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Limey wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:48am:
I modified my post, it was a little harsh, sorry.

You're confusing two separate things here.

One is the subject of the thread, that is, what are appropriate punishments for juveniles.

The other is your partisan, shrill screeching about the unrelated topic, abortion.

Try to focus.

Well one fact which is quite relevant to this post is the fact that many of our nation's most vicious gangs recruit young gang members which they use to commit murders, since they have been historically charge with lesser crimes and face far less prison time.  In fact, one of the initiation rights of some gangs is that a prospective member (child) has to carry out a hit in order to achieve membership in the gang.  This is what is driving the issue of severe punishment for the most violent "children" in our nation.

Many more Liberal Americans view criminals as "children" even when other Americans of this age  are eligible to join our armed forces and many do!
  

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Reply #16 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:21am
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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:43am:
Well one fact which is quite relevant to this post is the fact that many of our nation's most vicious gangs recruit young gang members which they use to commit murders, since they have been historically charge with lesser crimes and face far less prison time.  In fact, one of the initiation rights of some gangs is that a prospective member (child) has to carry out a hit in order to achieve membership in the gang.  This is what is driving the issue of severe punishment for the most violent "children" in our nation.

Many more Liberal Americans view criminals as "children" even when other Americans of this age  are eligible to join our armed forces and many do!


You know what Jesus's most powerful super power was?

He had an infinite capacity for forgiveness, should the right conditions be met, but nonetheless, the guy was a forgiving machine.

I bet Jesus could forgive even a violent criminal without even breaking a sweat, in fact, I believe He did.  Meanwhile, the "religious" conservative right wing has gone so gung-ho for being tough on crime, even professed Christians like Jasmine are afraid of forgiving, even a child.  We've gone farther even than that as a society and actively demonize children, even the moderate left will do this.  It's not just a 'child criminal,' it's a


                 "SUPER PREDATOR!"



The politics of fear and anger has defeated even the bible and you should be more outraged than me.
  

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Capt. Lola B.S.C. wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:21am:
You know what Jesus's most powerful super power was?

He had an infinite capacity for forgiveness, should the right conditions be met, but nonetheless, the guy was a forgiving machine.

I bet Jesus could forgive even a violent criminal without even breaking a sweat, in fact, I believe He did.  Meanwhile, the "religious" conservative right wing has gone so gung-ho for being tough on crime, even professed Christians like Jasmine are afraid of forgiving, even a child.  We've gone farther even than that as a society and actively demonize children, even the moderate left will do this.  It's not just a 'child criminal,' it's a


                 "SUPER PREDATOR!"

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The politics of fear and anger has defeated even the bible and you should be more outraged than me.

I never professed myself to be a "good" Christian,  I don't turn my cheek and wouldn't bat an eye if a bad guy caused me to drop the hammer on him by the actions he chose to commit. 

At what point are these rapist, murderers and even terrorists to be considered poor "children"?  Most of the MS 13 gang members start out as violent murdering kid-Thugs!

I care far more about their victims (and potential future victims) than I do about such individual assholes!

How do you propose to make our nation's inner cities safe for good kids to live?
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Reply #18 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:12am
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Captain Nazi,  how do you put a YouTube clip in a post, you big hunk?
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:57am
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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:53am:
I never professed myself to be a "good" Christian,  I don't turn my cheek and wouldn't bat an eye if a bad guy caused me to drop the hammer on him by the actions he chose to commit. 

At what point are these rapist, murderers and even terrorists to be considered poor "children"?  Most of the MS 13 gang members start out as violent murdering kid-Thugs!

I care far more about their victims (and potential future victims) than I do about such individual assholes!

How do you propose to make our nation's inner cities safe for good kids to live?


I've called Christianity Judaism-lite before and this is a great example as to why.  It's just too damn convenient, too damn easy.  You can casually dismiss any tenant of your faith, no matter how central a theme and you still can call yourself a saved Christian, just "bad" one.

You give Christianity a bad name literally.  Let's call it "bad Christianity." 
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