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More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump
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"Over 6,000 individuals registered to vote in New Hampshire for Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses — and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.
Speaker of the New Hampshire House Shawn Jasper, a Republican, issued the findings on Thursday based on inquiries he made to the Department of State, which oversees elections, and the Department of Safety.
Since election days, Republicans have charged that a significant number of non-resident Democrats, principally from Massachusetts, flowed into New Hampshire to vote illegally, tilting close elections to their party. Mr. Jasper’s findings give credence, though not outright proof, to those allegations."

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Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in News Hampshire by 2,736 votes
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Democratic Sen. Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.



Didn't candidate Trump say something about the system being rigged???


WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO   "RESIST"  AN AUDIT OF HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTED IN EACH STATE!
  

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Re: More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump
Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:57pm
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Any proof that these were illegally cast votes?

You can register to vote on Election Day in New Hampshire; however, you do have to show proof of domicile, which is defined as "that place, more than any other, where you sleep most nights of the year, or to which you intend to return after a temporary absence" (Source).

There is no requirement that you have an in-state driver's license or have a registered vehicle. Seems like if you wanted to prove they were illegal votes, you would need to obtain copies of the affidavits, which this report does not mention (not surprisingly).
  
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Demos wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Any proof that these were illegally cast votes?

You can register to vote on Election Day in New Hampshire; however, you do have to show proof of domicile, which is defined as "that place, more than any other, where you sleep most nights of the year, or to which you intend to return after a temporary absence" (Source).

There is no requirement that you have an in-state driver's license or have a registered vehicle. Seems like if you wanted to prove they were illegal votes, you would need to obtain copies of the affidavits, which this report does not mention (not surprisingly).

Read the article...then wait and watch!  It either is or it ain't!  I predict it may have a lot to do with the bus loads of Democrat Voters (Activists) that came into Kelly Ayotte's state to ensure her defeat.  Nobody expect Trump to win!  We'll see.
  

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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Read the article...

I read the article. It's pretty worthless (they didn't even link out or name the 2 "scientific" studies they claim show illegal voting).

Why didn't the Speaker request copies of the domicile affidavits? That would be an easy way to determine if any votes were illegally cast since you can check the affidavit against other records. Instead, we get some info on driver's licenses and vehicle registrations that are pretty much meaningless.

  
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Demos wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 4:11pm:
I read the article. It's pretty worthless (they didn't even link out or name the 2 "scientific" studies they claim show illegal voting).

Why didn't the Speaker request copies of the domicile affidavits? That would be an easy way to determine if any votes were illegally cast since you can check the affidavit against other records. Instead, we get some info on driver's licenses and vehicle registrations that are pretty much meaningless.


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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
Oh, Yee of Little Faith!

Because I've actually worked on elections, including 2 recounts and an election contest, so I've had to prove illegal votes were cast (found one person who voted by mail in Travis Co elections for 5 years while not living in the county). So, yeah, I am skeptical of these claims since I know how they can be proven.

If the Speaker wanted to prove these votes were illegal, he could do so. Instead, we got meaningless DL and registration stats (meaningless because they're not related to voter data like domicile affidavits).
  
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Re: More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump
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The Original Wally wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-h...

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"Over 6,000 individuals registered to vote in New Hampshire for Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses — and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.
Speaker of the New Hampshire House Shawn Jasper, a Republican, issued the findings on Thursday based on inquiries he made to the Department of State, which oversees elections, and the Department of Safety.
Since election days, Republicans have charged that a significant number of non-resident Democrats, principally from Massachusetts, flowed into New Hampshire to vote illegally, tilting close elections to their party. Mr. Jasper’s findings give credence, though not outright proof, to those allegations."

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Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in News Hampshire by 2,736 votes
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Democratic Sen. Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.



Didn't candidate Trump say something about the system being rigged???


WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO   "RESIST"  AN AUDIT OF HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTED IN EACH STATE!




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"Over 6,000 individuals registered to vote in New Hampshire for Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses


Did they do this legally?


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Didn't candidate Trump say something about the system being rigged???


Yep, and  Trump's a big part of the problem. Can you say cronyism Wally?

  

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admin wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 3:21am:
- can the Republican challenge the vote now?

Since Ayotte did not request a recount, probably not, because the deadline has passed.
  
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admin wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 3:21am:
- can the Republican challenge the vote now?

If/when more and more examples of 'possible' voter fraud (which in this case may have had the effect of causing one state's electoral votes being given to the wrong candidate) come to light, the case for Trump's bipartisan commission to completed a first time audit of all fifty states, is bolstered.  No doubt the SCOTUS will have to decide if the state's who are refusing to comply will have to do so, though.
  

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