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Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:40am
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I've heard figures of $80 - $100 billion ultimate federal costs for the dumb clucks who couldn't plan for their own storm-handling in texas.  With wall costs cited at $12 - $20 billion, that's four or five walls!   REALLY, I'm TIRED of taxpayers signing a blank check to cover the avoidable costs of all the screw-ups in the country!
  
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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:40am:
I've heard figures of $80 - $100 billion ultimate federal costs for the dumb clucks who couldn't plan for their own storm-handling in texas.  With wall costs cited at $12 - $20 billion, that's four or five walls!   REALLY, I'm TIRED of taxpayers signing a blank check to cover the avoidable costs of all the screw-ups in the country!

You say Houston is full of dumb clucks who can't plan for storms yet you have suggested repeatedly that a last minute evacuation of the city would have been desirable, knowing full well that the roads were designed to capture and move water out of the city.

So you are either are nihilist or someone whose judgement is highly questionable.

Either way, you have no grounds for criticism.
  

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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
Reply #2 - Sep 9th, 2017 at 3:31am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 3:19am:
You say Houston is full of dumb clucks who can't plan for storms yet you have suggested repeatedly that a last minute evacuation of the city would have been desirable, knowing full well that the roads were designed to capture and move water out of the city.

So you are either are nihilist or someone whose judgement is highly questionable.

Either way, you have no grounds for criticism.


I'm getting REALLY TIRED of people saying I said things I didn't say.  I certainly NEVER said the city should order a "last minute evacuation", or anything else stupid.  I've REPEATEDLY said that such cities should take due account in their preparations and planning that they are right next to an area for which it has been known for 500 years that it frequently produces hurricanes.
  
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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 3:31am:
I'm getting REALLY TIRED of people saying I said things I didn't say.  I certainly NEVER said the city should order a "last minute evacuation", or anything else stupid.  I've REPEATEDLY said that such cities should take due account in their preparations and planning that they are right next to an area for which it has been known for 500 years that it frequently produces hurricanes.

You have criticized Houston for not evacuating. Full stop.

You can't deny it now.

Harvey went from a depression to a hurricane in 48 hours. So any call for an evacuation is necessarily a call for a last minute evacuation.

Houston has preparations and planning in place for these kinds of events. You refuse to consider that Houston has done a fine job given its terrain and location.
  

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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:40am:
I've heard figures of $80 - $100 billion ultimate federal costs for the dumb clucks who couldn't plan for their own storm-handling in texas.  With wall costs cited at $12 - $20 billion, that's four or five walls!   REALLY, I'm TIRED of taxpayers signing a blank check to cover the avoidable costs of all the screw-ups in the country!

So how should they have prepared differently?
  

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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:40am:
I've heard figures of $80 - $100 billion ultimate federal costs for the dumb clucks who couldn't plan for their own storm-handling in texas.  With wall costs cited at $12 - $20 billion, that's four or five walls!   REALLY, I'm TIRED of taxpayers signing a blank check to cover the avoidable costs of all the screw-ups in the country!


What's your plan if over 50 inches of rain in a comparatively short period of time occurs where you live ?  Do you have a plan?  Does your community have a plan?  How do you plan for something that has never occurred before?
  
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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
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funny how some like to name call people living in the Gulf Coast area while they drive their vehicles filled with fuel produced in that area.
  
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:40am:
I've heard figures of $80 - $100 billion ultimate federal costs for the dumb clucks who couldn't plan for their own storm-handling in texas.  With wall costs cited at $12 - $20 billion, that's four or five walls!   REALLY, I'm TIRED of taxpayers signing a blank check to cover the avoidable costs of all the screw-ups in the country!

Could round up all the DOCA 'kids' and the other illegals and send them all to Fort Jackson in the Dry Tortugs to have a hurricane party!
  

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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
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TowardLiberty wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 3:53am:
You have criticized Houston for not evacuating. Full stop.

You can't deny it now.

Harvey went from a depression to a hurricane in 48 hours. So any call for an evacuation is necessarily a call for a last minute evacuation.

Houston has preparations and planning in place for these kinds of events. You refuse to consider that Houston has done a fine job given its terrain and location.


Harvey as a low pressure area was discovered on August 13, and hit Houston on August 28. 

http://www.caller.com/story/weather/hurricanes/2017/09/02/harvey-timeline-see-ho...

Events have proven you did a lousy job.  You inadequately prepared for a worst case hurricane, both in your water removal and evacuation capability - and now you want the whole country to write a check to redeem your stupidity.
  
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Re: Did anybody think about this - illegal alien wall vs. Harvey costs?
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Wadsworth wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:26am:
So how should they have prepared differently?


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