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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #40 - Sep 21st, 2017 at 9:47am
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 21st, 2017 at 6:28am:


So why the initials rather then the name?


screen names evolve.  yours has not always been seawolf, has it?
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #41 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:43pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 6:44am:
And evolution is a lie.  The major flaw is that life happened accidently.


I can't believe that you are still making the same elementary error.


How life started and evolution are utterly different topics.


Evolution is not in any doubt. It is happening around you right now.

How can you continue to be confused about what you are so passionate about? 

Do you never read anything at all?
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #42 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:46pm
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BowHunter wrote on Sep 21st, 2017 at 3:17am:
Note that I never said that T.Rexes would have been the intelligent species. At any rate it would not have been an actual species but one evolved from one of those. Like we evolved from the lemur. in that world, T.Rexes would be the equivalent of our lions, tigers and bears...    oh my!

BTW, apes are not our ancestors, they're our genetic cousins with only two percent of their DNA different from ours. They are the closest animals to humans, genetically speaking, because the most intelligent ones are likely the dolphins. The dolphins could have supplanted us because they existed long before we did but fortunately for us they live in water and it's not possible to develop the kind of civilization we did in water, plus they don't have prehensile limbs to speak of.



You may have evolved from a lemur.


I evolved from a monkey.


You can call me "sir".
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #43 - Sep 22nd, 2017 at 10:22pm
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Limey wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:43pm:
I can't believe that you are still making the same elementary error.


How life started and evolution are utterly different topics.


Evolution is not in any doubt. It is happening around you right now.

How can you continue to be confused about what you are so passionate about? 

Do you never read anything at all?

How did life begin and where did we come from?  Evolution is part of the claim that the earth evolved from the theory of the Big Bang and then it gets all murky to the point that through a series of accidents life formed perfectly a series of spieces that now exist today.  That is the overall gist of the beginning of life and the evolution of mankind.  I like to go right for the very start of it all and ask where did it all start and where did the materials come from when they started this whole process as theorized by humanist.  It reminds me of the constant reminder of the left that weather events are not climate change...  except when the left decides otherwise like hurricanes or some other natural disaster.

Regarding I never read, right back at you my friend, you have filters and are not willing to think outside the box.  You have been taught that this is fact and you have simply accepted it as fact.  I can at least state that my belief did not start off with God and creation.  I use to believe evolution and had little belief in evolution.  I too fell for that rut that so many people are in and that is because our education does not teach how to think outside the box.  We simply repeat what we have been taught with no desire to challenge it.  I ask questions like how did nature get it right so often to populate the earth?  How did we not end up as a mass of mess and died off?  Which part of the anatomy dominated the other that would jepordize our ability to survive.  It simply does not make sense.  What are the mathmatical odds of a single cell evolving into a new type of creature.  Now take it to the -- degree and ask how two cells can roughly evolve together within the period of time for procreation to sustain this new species.  That math then becomes virtually impossible in odds.  But whatever.
  


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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #44 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 12:06am
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Limey wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 8:46pm:
You may have evolved from a lemur.


I evolved from a monkey.


You can call me "sir".


Actually, you've evolved from a worm.
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #45 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 8:09am
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BowHunter wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 12:06am:
Actually, you've evolved from a worm.


Well, at least he DID evolve.
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #46 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 8:18am
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EF wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 8:09am:
Well, at least he DID evolve.


Yeah, unlike you and consort that still believe in the same (let's keep it clean) poppycock that our ancestors believed thousands of years ago.
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #47 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 9:22pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 22nd, 2017 at 10:22pm:
How did life begin and where did we come from?  Evolution is part of the claim that the earth evolved from the theory of the Big Bang and then it gets all murky to the point that through a series of accidents life formed perfectly a series of spieces that now exist today.



Entirely wrong.

I think there are sides in this set of conversations and you're mixing up the factions on your opponents' side.


Evolution is a discrete function independent of the origin of life.


Seriously, this is a thing. It's why many Christians can accept evolution.


God made life, life develops via evolution, which has God initiated.


That's not too unacceptable in certain Christian circles.

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  That is the overall gist of the beginning of life and the evolution of mankind.  I like to go right for the very start of it all and ask where did it all start and where did the materials come from when they started this whole process as theorized by humanist.  It reminds me of the constant reminder of the left that weather events are not climate change...  except when the left decides otherwise like hurricanes or some other natural disaster.

Regarding I never read, right back at you my friend, you have filters and are not willing to think outside the box.  You have been taught that this is fact and you have simply accepted it as fact.  I can at least state that my belief did not start off with God and creation.  I use to believe evolution and had little belief in evolution.  I too fell for that rut that so many people are in and that is because our education does not teach how to think outside the box.  We simply repeat what we have been taught with no desire to challenge it.  I ask questions like how did nature get it right so often to populate the earth?  How did we not end up as a mass of mess and died off?  Which part of the anatomy dominated the other that would jepordize our ability to survive.  It simply does not make sense.  What are the mathmatical odds of a single cell evolving into a new type of creature.  Now take it to the -- degree and ask how two cells can roughly evolve together within the period of time for procreation to sustain this new species.  That math then becomes virtually impossible in odds.  But whatever.



On the contrary, my education was very much about thinking outside the box.


You forget that I was educated in Wales.

The nonconformist tradition runs deep.


It seems to me that you are in a box, one marked "orthodoxy".
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #48 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 9:57pm
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Limey wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 9:22pm:


Entirely wrong.

I think there are sides in this set of conversations and you're mixing up the factions on your opponents' side.


Evolution is a discrete function independent of the origin of life.


Seriously, this is a thing. It's why many Christians can accept evolution.


God made life, life develops via evolution, which has God initiated.


That's not too unacceptable in certain Christian circles.



On the contrary, my education was very much about thinking outside the box.


You forget that I was educated in Wales.

The nonconformist tradition runs deep.


It seems to me that you are in a box, one marked "orthodoxy".


I know more than a few who do accept.   I don't deny there is evidence to support the theory of evolution, but that's what it is, a theory.  It is the only theory that will fit with an accidental, random, formation of the universe and existence of the complexity of life we see around us.  But it can also fit within a Creator theory, also just a theory that cannot be proven. 

I don't lose a lot of sleep over it, myself.  God created in whatever means it pleased Him to do so.   I'm more concerned about Rocket Man and the Dotard in the White House right now.
  

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Re: Can Soft Tissue Last Millions of Years?
Reply #49 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 9:59pm
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Would be a valid remark except you never remember what I have said.  There is also my own encounters too that leave no doubt.  We all will get our answers eventually.
  


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