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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #10 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 10:49am
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BowHunter wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 10:30am:
Sure and you affirming that a billion people who call themselves Christians are not truly Christians is all it takes to make that determination.


He didn't say a billion people calling themselves Christians are not truly Christians.  I think he is saying having a godfather stand beside you when you're a baby and professing belief on your behalf after which a priest sprinkles you does not make you a Christian.  And if you bother to read the Book, in the words of Jesus himself, for whom the religion is named, that's true.  It does not.
  

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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:24am
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BowHunter wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 4:19am:
But trump says that it's a miracle and we must accept that without reservations.


In a sense, he's correct.  There is no freewill, so his coming was inevitable in a natural world governed by laws.   Undecided
  

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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #12 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:36am
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EF wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 10:49am:
He didn't say a billion people calling themselves Christians are not truly Christians.  I think he is saying having a godfather stand beside you when you're a baby and professing belief on your behalf after which a priest sprinkles you does not make you a Christian.  And if you bother to read the Book, in the words of Jesus himself, for whom the religion is named, that's true.  It does not.


So now I am no longer a lapsed catholic? Why can't you make up your...  "mind"?

Just because your midget of a cult decrees that a much larger cult (encompassing the whole world) has it wrong, doesn't make it so.

I can't be clearer than that.

In any case that doesn't give you the right to decree that this man wasn't a Christian because your particular brand of fanaticism doesn't allow him to be one.
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #13 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:44am
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BowHunter wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:36am:
So now I am no longer a lapsed catholic? Why can't you make up your...  "mind"?

Just because your midget of a cult decrees that a much larger cult (encompassing the whole world) has it wrong, doesn't make it so.

I can't be clearer than that.

In any case that doesn't give you the right to decree that this man wasn't a Christian because your particular brand of fanaticism doesn't allow him to be one.


I don't see where I implied I no longer consider you a lapsed Catholic.  I do believe I have struck a nerve, though. 
  

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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #14 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:50am
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EF wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:44am:
I don't see where I implied I no longer consider you a lapsed Catholic.  I do believe I have struck a nerve, though. 


Well, it does seem that like, all fanatics you see everything as proof of your preconceived misconceptions, so no matter what response I'll give to that stupid insult of yours, to you it will only confirm that that insult was well founded.

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #15 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:59am
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BowHunter wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 10:30am:
Sure and you affirming that a billion people who call themselves Christians are not truly Christians is all it takes to make that determination.

It has nothing to do with what you or I think, the standards are set by Christ himself and if we do not heed his words no Priest will be able to pardon you once you stand before God's throne.  Best to know first hand what God requires of you to be saved and not by a Catholic Priest either, but by the word of God.  I can not alter his requirements, in fact, no man can alter God's requirements.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #16 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 12:04pm
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Seawolf wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:59am:
It has nothing to do with what you or I think, the standards are set by Christ himself and if we do not heed his words no Priest will be able to pardon you once you stand before God's throne.  Best to know first hand what God requires of you to be saved and not by a Catholic Priest either, but by the word of God.  I can not alter his requirements, in fact, no man can alter God's requirements. 



And what gives you the unbelievable hubris to think that you're more qualified to do that than the pope himself, IE someone who's been elected by higher ups to be the most qualified person in the world? To name only one among a BILLION!
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #17 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 12:05pm
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John 14:5 “Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #18 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 12:06pm
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Seawolf wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
John 14:5 “Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.



So your contention is that the pope never read the bible?
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: I won't accept it, either
Reply #19 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 12:06pm
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Seawolf wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 11:59am:
It has nothing to do with what you or I think, the standards are set by Christ himself and if we do not heed his words no Priest will be able to pardon you once you stand before God's throne.  Best to know first hand what God requires of you to be saved and not by a Catholic Priest either, but by the word of God.  I can not alter his requirements, in fact, no man can alter God's requirements. 

Next time read completely through my remarks.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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