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Reply #10 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:25am
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There is nothing necessarily racist about reporting statistics.

But in the manner this article approaches the issue, it is racist.

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Whites comprise about 75 percent of America's population and they have had just about enough of the offensive accusations, protests, and moral outrage directed at them.


This is racist because it is lumping people together based on their skin color and then suggesting that this arbitrarily assembled group of individuals all have one mind about a given issue. That's collectivism based on race. That's racism.

And the entire article is riddled with it.

No attempt is made to understand the actions of particular groups of people living in high crime, urban areas. No attempt is made to consider the role the war on drugs plays, or policing for profit.

The article even mentions the fact that the emancipation proclamation happened 150 years ago, as if the Jim Crow era never occurred.

It's all about the differences between "whites" and "blacks," without considering any other relevant factors.

The complexity and multi-causal nature of reality is all reduced to a function of one collective attribute- skin color.

There is no mention of the role of poverty, culture, education, the legal system or anything else that might play a role in explaining these statistics.

That would be require too much thought.

It is far easier to reduce it all down to the "victimhood mentality" and the "plantation" politics of the democratic party.

Make no mistake. This is not thoughtful analysis of a social problem.

This is racism and partisan politics at it's tribal worst.

If you do not consider the giant pull to the criminal life made possible by the war on drugs when you try to understand crime stats, you are missing out on a major causal factor.

It seems many on the right would like to ignore the damage caused by their pet policy and scapegoat pigment instead.

  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #11 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:33am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:25am:
There is nothing necessarily racist about reporting statistics.

But in the manner this article approaches the issue, it is racist.


This is racist because it is lumping people together based on their skin color and then suggesting that this arbitrarily assembled group of individuals all have one mind about a given issue. That's collectivism based on race. That's racism.

And the entire article is riddled with it.

No attempt is made to understand the actions of particular groups of people living in high crime, urban areas. No attempt is made to consider the role the war on drugs plays, or policing for profit.

The article even mentions the fact that the emancipation proclamation happened 150 years ago, as if the Jim Crow era never occurred.

It's all about the differences between "whites" and "blacks," without considering any other relevant factors.

The complexity and multi-causal nature of reality is all reduced to a function of one collective attribute- skin color.

There is no mention of the role of poverty, culture, education, the legal system or anything else that might play a role in explaining these statistics.

That would be require too much thought.

It is far easier to reduce it all down to the "victimhood mentality" and the "plantation" politics of the democratic party.

Make no mistake. This is not thoughtful analysis of a social problem.

This is racism and partisan politics at it's tribal worst.

If you do not consider the giant pull to the criminal life made possible by the war on drugs when you try to understand crime stats, you are missing out on a major causal factor.

It seems many on the right would like to ignore the damage caused by their pet policy and scapegoat pigment instead.


White people back to Europe, blacks back to Africa (have fun), Asian back to Asia, and the problem is solved. Otherwise it never will be. People will always use the race card and media will always make sure of that.
  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #12 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:42am
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:33am:
White people back to Europe, blacks back to Africa (have fun), Asian back to Asia, and the problem is solved. Otherwise it never will be. People will always use the race card and media will always make sure of that.

No need for any of that.

The world is a beautiful place as it is.

As you say, there will always be racism. But there will also always be people pointing out how silly racism is.
  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #13 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:43am
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Jiminy Cricket wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:41am:
So, is it not possible that the perpetrators of these crimes are not themselves racist for committing crimes to such an extent that the violations against white victims are so disproportionately high---especially the rape category?


Of course it's possible but how do you know other than simply lumping them all together and making an assumption based merely on race?

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Rather than point to these statistics as being indicative of some of the issues associated with the black community, people want to concentrate on the motive behind reporting the statistics. Maybe if the media and the communities of society itself would acknowledge these deviants' behavior instead of criticizing the reporter's motives, then real progress at solving these problems could be made.but, no. Society continues to blame someone else and play the race card to somehow feel better for defending a group of perceived hapless and helpless oppressed people rather than address the modern causes of today's racial strife and division from the race industry.


Once again Stu isn't simply reporting these issues to address racial strife and division.  He's doing it because he's racist.  This is constant theme with him, he posts these hit pieces and runs away like a little a bitch every time.  He has had plenty of opportunities to have a real discussion.
  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #14 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:55am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:42am:
No need for any of that.

The world is a beautiful place as it is.

As you say, there will always be racism. But there will also always be people pointing out how silly racism is.


Yes, but the few that don't feel that way are portrayed through the media as a norm in this country. It excites people and fools people into segregation. Something minorities appear to support themselves.
  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #15 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:02pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:55am:
Yes, but the few that don't feel that way are portrayed through the media as a norm in this country. It excites people and fools people into segregation. Something minorities appear to support themselves.

The problem is many people have gotten so triggered by left wing victimhood ideas that they have gone full retard and have actually become racists themselves.

So much so that now it appears there are very few people who want to look at people as individuals. 

No you are called a cuck and a race traitor if you don't want to confront white genocide- the so-called demographic winter.
  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #16 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:04pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
The problem is many people have gotten so triggered by left wing victimhood ideas that they have gone full retard and have actually become racists themselves.

So much so that now it appears there are very few people who want to look at people as individuals. 

No you are called a cuck and a race traitor if you don't want to confront white genocide- the so-called demographic winter.


Im waiting to see Wadsworth argue with you. If he doesn't then he's a liar and everything he has said about this issue is HS.
  

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Re: Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee
Reply #17 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:09pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Im waiting to see Wadsworth argue with you. If he doesn't then he's a liar and everything he has said about this issue is HS.


I don't have to wonder about the nature of Wadsworth's contribution.

That person is functionally brain dead.
  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Reply #18 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 1:58pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
I don't have to wonder about the nature of Wadsworth's contribution.

That person is functionally brain dead.

Thank You Mr. Troll.  I hate you too. Grin
  

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Reply #19 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 2:06pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Thank You Mr. Troll.  I hate you too. Grin

Take it as an insult if you want but I am not trying to be rude.

It's an honest assessment.

I think you have some sort of developmental challenge- some cognitive limitation.
  

"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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