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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #10 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:20pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
LOL, what?



This..


wyattstorch2004 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
details of the policy that they couldn't possibly know but would need to know to make such claims. 


Libertarianism is a 'pie in the sky' sort of thing. A ethos that can only exist in thought experiments resplendent with a lack of detail.  When pressed for detail, every horizontal agent takes on the appearance of government closing the loop. 

It will quickly bore one to tears. Still, I enjoy mental masturbation as much as anyone.





  

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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #11 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:20pm
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Lomelis wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 9:50pm:
The bold is an extremely important point which makes the headline of the article or analysis for that matter a bunch of shit.

How can anyone make such a judgement about this specific plan if the numbers haven't even been released?  Makes absolutely no sense.



Would the so-called specifics change that the spirit of the tax cut largely benefits only the top percentiles? If so, please explain. The article even points out that even without the specifics, even a conservative tax institution came to the same conclusion.
  
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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:26pm
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
"Most of these people pay other federal taxes, including payroll taxes."


Then why not put that in bold?


Could it be that it doesn't matter when discussing income taxes?
  
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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:31pm
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Harry and company wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:26pm:
Could it be that it doesn't matter when discussing income taxes?



The discussion is about Trump's Tax Plan, which includes more than just income tax reform, idiot. Other issues in the plan have included the repeal of the estate tax and tax credits that don't rely strictly on income. Now, sit down while the adults talk.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:33pm
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:31pm:
The discussion is about Trump's Tax Plan, which includes more than just income tax reform, idiot. Other issues in the plan have included the repeal of the estate tax and tax credits that don't rely strictly on income. Now, sit down while the adults talk.


I'm not in a discussion with you. I just took a moment to point out your stupidity.
  
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Harry and company wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:33pm:
I just took a moment to point out your stupidity.



And demonstrating your stupidity is always an excellent way to do it.

  

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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #16 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:42pm
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Cloistered Cyber Monk-Local47 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
And demonstrating your stupidity is always an excellent way to do it.




He makes it an art form. Poetry in motion. Like Beethoven writing a symphony, Rembrandt painting, or Trump sticking his foot in his mouth on Twitter. Harry definitely takes demonstrating stupidity to a new level of excellence.
  
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:42pm:
He makes it an art form. Poetry in motion. Like Beethoven writing a symphony, Rembrandt painting, or Trump sticking his foot in his mouth on Twitter. Harry definitely takes demonstrating stupidity to a new level of excellence.


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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #18 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:53pm
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Cloistered Cyber Monk-Local47 wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
A ethos that can only exist in thought experiments resplendent with a lack of detail.  When pressed for detail, every horizontal agent takes on the appearance of government closing the loop. 

I'd like to see that fleshed out further for I do know not what you mean by this.

Every horizontal agreement takes the appearance of government? Are you sure about that?

So when I go and buy a burger, that takes the appearance of government? How so?

And I would remind you that these "thought experiments" are anything but. These are theoretical discussions of practical reality, whether it be historical reality or our modern situation.

They are not hypotheticals. They are an analysis of actual institutional forms in existence today and in the past.

  

"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Re: Tax Policy Center: Poor/Middle Class don't fare well under Trump Tax Plan
Reply #19 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:55pm
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I'm often in awe. ..  AWESOME that is..  Cool


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