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Re: Berlin, 1935 .......... Berkley 2017
Reply #10 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:11pm
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patrick2 wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
That should be obvious - the Nazis are about ten guys in the middle of the woods somewhere in the south.  Antifa is tens of thousands of highly organized thugs wrecking cities, invading universities, shutting down political opponents' rallies and speeches - there's no comparison at all. 

Did you see the Charlottesville coverage? That's not 10 guys.

Or how about the alt-right's presence and dominance of social media? Granted there is a some sockpuppetry happening there, but I know several alt-right people in real life. I don't know any Antifa.

Have you seen the battles of Berkley where the alt-right vastly outnumbering Antifa?

My read is the alt-right is probably the larger of the two groups, by a significant margin. This is not to say that everyone of these people is a Nazi, like the Charlottesville blood and soil set. That would be an oversimplification.
  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Re: Berlin, 1935 .......... Berkley 2017
Reply #11 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:16pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:11pm:
Did you see the Charlottesville coverage? That's not 10 guys.

Or how about the alt-right's presence and dominance of social media? Granted there is a some sockpuppetry happening there, but I know several alt-right people in real life. I don't know any Antifa.

Have you seen the battles of Berkley where the alt-right vastly outnumbering Antifa?

My read is the alt-right is probably the larger of the two groups, by a significant margin. This is not to say that everyone of these people is a Nazi, like the Charlottesville blood and soil set. That would be an oversimplification.


Give me your list of leftwing speakers driven off campus by the alt right.  Soros backs Antifa, BLM, etc:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/31/the-anti-fascist-fascist/

Give me your list of billionaires who finance the Nazis.

Or better yet - give it up.
  
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Re: Berlin, 1935 .......... Berkley 2017
Reply #12 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:40pm
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patrick2 wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Give me your list of leftwing speakers driven off campus by the alt right.  Soros backs Antifa, BLM, etc:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/31/the-anti-fascist-fascist/

Give me your list of billionaires who finance the Nazis.

Or better yet - give it up.

Why would I give you a list of speakers driven off by the alt-right? Where do I claim such a list existed?

Strawman much?

As far as billionaires financing Nazi's, how about the Mercer Family, and William Regenery.

But then I have to ask, where did I say I had a list of billionaires financing the alt-right?

Give it up, Pat. You are in bed with white nationalists. You have reacted so hard against left wing PC snowflakism that you have popped around on the other side and have become the mirror image of what you despise in them- a identity focused tribalist with his own brand of political correctness.

  

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Re: Berlin, 1935 .......... Berkley 2017
Reply #13 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 8:15pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
Why would I give you a list of speakers driven off by the alt-right? Where do I claim such a list existed?

Strawman much?


You've tried to make an equivalence between a handful of comical Nazis, and an organized, numerous, well-financed and destructive libfascist group.  In many ways, the comparison is ridiculous.

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As far as billionaires financing Nazi's, how about the Mercer Family, and William Regenery.


How about them?  Speak up.

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Give it up, Pat. You are in bed with white nationalists.


When all else fails, and with you it fails rather quickly, drag out the personal attacks.  Wink

  
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Re: Berlin, 1935 .......... Berkley 2017
Reply #14 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 9:15pm
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patrick2 wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 8:15pm:
You've tried to make an equivalence between a handful of comical Nazis, and an organized, numerous, well-financed and destructive libfascist group.  In many ways, the comparison is ridiculous.


I haven't tried to make any equivalence between these groups. I have no idea which has more members.

I would note your attempt to downplay the alt-right, and the white nationalism associated with it.

I wonder why that is?
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How about them?  Speak up.


What about them? Speak up!

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When all else fails, and with you it fails rather quickly, drag out the personal attacks.  Wink


I am just borrowing your "give it up" quip and repurposing it. Don't like the heat? Stay out the kitchen!  Cool
  

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