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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:23pm
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admin wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
- why does anyone believe the liberal fake news? - on the face of it - 10x is a joke
- of course Trump never said he was for even expanding it - everyone knows his agenda


But I know. Everything that puts Trump in a bad light is fake. Got it. Even if he said it, still fake.  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
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admin wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
- why does anyone believe the liberal fake news? - on the face of it - 10x is a joke
- of course Trump never said he was for even expanding it - everyone knows his agenda


What makes you say this?  He has shifted his "agenda" so often that there really IS no agenda.
  

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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
Reply #12 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:48pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
What makes you say this?  He has shifted his "agenda" so often that there really IS no agenda.

That's just it. Admin probably had NO IDEA what Trump may have said. He just basically made some shit up, claiming Trump never said anything about increasing nukes in order to defend him and make some statement about unfair fake news. Admin either didn't bother to check or figured no one else would so he could just peddle the bullshit. A lot like Trump with respect to his supporters.
  

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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
Reply #13 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:06pm
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Note that Trump also spoke at some point about having Japan (among others) deploy nukes.
  

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forgotten centrist wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
What makes you say this?  He has shifted his "agenda" so often that there really IS no agenda.


He really only has one item on his agenda.  Self aggrandizement.
  

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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
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admin wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
- of course Trump never said he was for even expanding it

Except when he does...

  
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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:48pm
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I am all for increasing our nuclear arsenal - not necessarily in numbers, but in capability and pure destructive power.

Naturally, Tillerson would disagree. As most Secretary of States are, he is a gigantic pussy.
  


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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:56pm
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Jasmine wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
I am all for increasing our nuclear arsenal - not necessarily in numbers, but in capability and pure destructive power.


Ok, so, given the massive cost and the fact we already have the ability to destroy any country many times over, what is the point? I mean, really what is the point? It's like killing some dude, then going out after and spending another $5000 for ammo to shoot the corpse. There is no point. We have enough nukes for a massive deterrent. Why spend the money on something that serves no additional purpose?
  

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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:01pm
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Vypr wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:56pm:
Ok, so, given the massive cost and the fact we already have the ability to destroy any country many times over, what is the point? I mean, really what is the point? It's like killing some dude, then going out after and spending another $5000 for ammo to shoot the corpse. There is no point. We have enough nukes for a massive deterrent. Why spend the money on something that serves no additional purpose?

Our nuclear arsenal, as it is, is great. It ensures that we can destroy the entire world if we wanted to. That's reassuring to me.

But like anything else (science, tech, medicine, appliances, etc.), our weaponry can be improved on. If we're not moving forward, we're going backward. It's not like other countries are standing still.

Our weaponry can be fine-tuned, made more efficient, be even more destructive, etc. I still think it's possible to someday create a satellite that can accurately and seamlessly wipe out an entire nation (without damaging its neighbors).
  


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Re: Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military
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Jasmine wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Our nuclear arsenal, as it is, is great. It ensures that we can destroy the entire world if we wanted to. That's reassuring to me.

But like anything else (science, tech, medicine, appliances, etc.), our weaponry can be improved on. If we're not moving forward, we're going backward. It's not like other countries are standing still.

Our weaponry can be fine-tuned, made more efficient, be even more destructive, etc. I still think it's possible to someday create a satellite that can accurately and seamlessly wipe out an entire nation (without damaging its neighbors).

You can airburst a 100kt nuke within a few meters of the projected ground target. You won't get much more accurate than that. City gone.

You can develop hypersonic delivery weapons, but those actually work to DECREASE security overall, as it is much more likely that some nation will get confused and jump the gun because they don't have time to verify some erroneous information. You are better off working on missile defense and defenses against new technologies.
  

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