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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:42pm
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Vypr wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
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What Trump is suggesting here is that the Federal Communications Commission needs to examine its licensing procedures for major news networks because what they are reporting is not to his liking. The coverage isn't positive enough for Trump, so he wants some sort of punitive action doled out.


One could argue that Trump's unhappiness with the news media stems from the untruthful stories being put out, rather than he simply doesn't like what is being reported.

But here is my opinion: Whether the media is full of "fake news" or not, it would be dangerously counterproductive to inflict any kind of punitive measures against the industry. First, obviously, there is the First Amendment. Secondly, from a practical standpoint, for all the bias that the media shows, the media is needed in a free society. They are the people who expose government corruption, report on emergencies, investigate business malpractices, and bring to light important information that the public needs to know.

The alternative to free press is a state-controlled media, and I don't think anyone here wants that.

Trump needs to deal with the negative media just like all his predecessors did. It doesn't matter if they're ganging up on him or not. Dealing with the media comes with the territory when you are President.

Ultimately, it is the American consumer who controls the state of the media. If we demanded more accountability from our news sources, things would change because the media needs our viewership, readership and listenership to survive. But most news consumers today are too lazy to even try to discern "fake news" from real news. They simply believe everything they read or hear, as long as it goes along with their own political beliefs.
  


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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #11 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm
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I for one am sick and tired of all the media CNN MSNBC ABC CBS NBC FOX NEWS ESPN NY TIMES WASHINGTON POST HUFFINGTON POST BREITBART And the rest of the spin cycle news outlets posting stories from Anonymous sources.what a crock of shit and only proves it's Fake News. It would be no different than me posting according to Anonymous sources vypr humps goats and Fiddler enjoys watching. So when ask to back up the claim I just say well anonymous sources said it's true so it must be true  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #12 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:14pm
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RWB wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
I for one am sick and tired of all the media CNN MSNBC ABC CBS NBC FOX NEWS ESPN NY TIMES WASHINGTON POST HUFFINGTON POST BREITBART And the rest of the spin cycle news outlets posting stories from Anonymous sources.what a crock of shit and only proves it's Fake News. It would be no different than me posting according to Anonymous sources vypr humps goats and Fiddler enjoys watching. So when ask to back up the claim I just say well anonymous sources said it's true so it must be true  Roll Eyes

I have non-anonymous sources that say you claimed NK is an invasion threat for the US. How embarrassing would that be if true?
  

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #13 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:03pm
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Jasmine wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:42pm:
One could argue that Trump's unhappiness with the news media stems from the untruthful stories being put out, rather than he simply doesn't like what is being reported.

But here is my opinion: Whether the media is full of "fake news" or not, it would be dangerously counterproductive to inflict any kind of punitive measures against the industry. First, obviously, there is the First Amendment. Secondly, from a practical standpoint, for all the bias that the media shows, the media is needed in a free society. They are the people who expose government corruption, report on emergencies, investigate business malpractices, and bring to light important information that the public needs to know.

The alternative to free press is a state-controlled media, and I don't think anyone here wants that.

Trump needs to deal with the negative media just like all his predecessors did. It doesn't matter if they're ganging up on him or not. Dealing with the media comes with the territory when you are President.

Ultimately, it is the American consumer who controls the state of the media. If we demanded more accountability from our news sources, things would change because the media needs our viewership, readership and listenership to survive. But most news consumers today are too lazy to even try to discern "fake news" from real news. They simply believe everything they read or hear, as long as it goes along with their own political beliefs.



What a remarkably good, thoughtful post.

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #14 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:09pm
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Limey wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
What a remarkably good, thoughtful post.

Who are you, and what have you done with Jasmine?

Did you get a bulk discount on the rope you used to tie her up?

Agreed, good post. My experience with Jasmine is whether you agree with her positions or not, she is not a partisan or water-carrier for anyone. Farther right than just about anyone on the board, but far more legitimate than 95% of the so-called conservatives (or liberals, or any other group identifiers) who will fight an argument simply because they can't bring themselves to be wrong or give an inch in any way.
  

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:32pm
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Limey wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
What a remarkably good, thoughtful post.

Who are you, and what have you done with Jasmine?

Did you get a bulk discount on the rope you used to tie her up?

I have my moments. I have the ability to be thoughtful and sweet and considerate and non-threatening. In fact, I can be super-duper nice. You should know that, Slimey.
  


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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:50pm
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Cloistered Cyber Monk-Local47 wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:24pm:
The 'push' (as you say) is to keep the Internet as it is.  Net Neutrality is the attempt to secure a free open Internet before Republicans can sell it off.

Happy to help.



How ever you want to portray it, Net Neutrality gets government more deeply involved in communications, not less.  It gives government more authority, not less.
  
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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:14pm
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Jasmine wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
I have my moments. I have the ability to be thoughtful and sweet and considerate and non-threatening. In fact, I can be super-duper nice. You should know that, Slimey.


Thank God,  she's back.

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:39pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:50pm:
It is too bad that so many people are just now getting concerned about authoritarians threatening to infringe on the freedom of the press.

So much progress could have been made if people had been more concerned all along.  Like when the FCC wanted to regulate media outlets or the whole push for "net neutrality" and "the fairness doctrine".

- there was "the fairness doctrine" for years to the benefit of the left - past by a liberal Pres. Johnson - they didn't complain
  

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Re: Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media
Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:44pm
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Vypr wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:33pm:
Trump just issued a direct threat to the free and independent media

President Donald Trump has said a lot of bad things about the media since he started running for president two-plus years ago. He's suggested that the press doesn't really like America. He has said the media is the "enemy of the American people." He has repeatedly called journalists the "most dishonest" people. He has worked to paint news stories he doesn't like as "fake" -- and claimed he created that term.

But he's never gone as far as he did on Wednesday morning when he tweeted this: "With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!"

What Trump is suggesting here is that the Federal Communications Commission needs to examine its licensing procedures for major news networks because what they are reporting is not to his liking. The coverage isn't positive enough for Trump, so he wants some sort of punitive action doled out.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/politics/donald-trump-media-tweet/index.html

- you do know there are broadcast rules under the FCC?
- those that own the licenses agreed to them
  

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