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Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 4:43pm:
I'm not. Police departments are local entities. What do you want, federal control?

You're posting about me supporting Antifa. You can f*ck off with that nonsense.
  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Reply #11 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 5:43pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 4:43pm:
I'm not. Police departments are local entities. What do you want, federal control?


I want all levels of government to be bound by the constitution and charged with protecting private property and person.

If that means the Feds lose their war on drugs, so be it. If that means that local governments are limited in a way that displeases them, so be it.
  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Reply #12 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:00pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
You're posting about me supporting Antifa. You can f*ck off with that nonsense.


lol, You seem like the type.

Do you support a national police force? If your answer is no, then you need to realize that a police force is a local entity and a national movement against such entities is a very bad idea. Problems need to be handled locally by the people affected. This is why we have elections.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
lol, You seem like the type.


No, you're just being insulting.

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Do you support a national police force? If your answer is no, then you need to realize that a police force is a local entity and a national movement against such entities is a very bad idea. Problems need to be handled locally by the people affected. This is why we have elections.

Of course I don't support a national force. But I also don't support a national war on drugs.

Voting and electoral politics is a waste of time. The real work is done at the cultural level.

It sounds like to me you are looking for a safe space.


  

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Reply #14 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:09pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
No, you're just being insulting.

Of course I don't support a national force. But I also don't support a national war on drugs.

Voting and electoral politics is a waste of time. The real work is done at the cultural level.

It sounds like to me you are looking for a safe space.




This has nothing to do with a safe space. It has to do with the right government doing the job so that government can stay small and close to the people.
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
This has nothing to do with a safe space. It has to do with the right government doing the job so that government can stay small and close to the people.

and this has a whole lot to do with the Millennials finally coming of age and growing the f**k up!   Some people mature , while others only get older.  Maturity comes from accepting responsibility for the consequences of one's own behaviors, self determination and perseverance .  Much of this comes from getting and keeping a job, managing your own finances and becoming a role model to your children.

When they finally stop blaming others and no longer feel that someone owes them somehting..they've arrived!  Having the government take what you've earned and give it to others all of the sudden doesn't make any sense at all

  

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Reply #16 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:29pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
It has to do with the right government doing the job so that government can stay small and close to the people.

And one of the ways to accomplish that goal is to ensure that the values and norms that promote small government are popularly understood.
  

"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Reply #17 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
and this has a whole lot to do with the Millennials finally coming of age and growing the f**k up!   Some people mature , while others only get older.  Maturity comes from accepting responsibility for the consequences of one's own behaviors, self determination and perseverance . 



Part of the appeal of socislism is that when you have accepted responsibility for your own behaviours, you feel others should too. So when their behaviour tends towards economic injustice towards you, you seek redress. When a minority is commiting economic injustice on a majority, you will get poll results like the ones quoted.

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Having the government take what you've earned and give it to others all of the sudden doesn't make any sense at all



Seeing your hard work enrich someone else, that is, the corporate entity which buys your labour, doesn’t make sense either.


See why the polls are as they are?
  

Under Capitalism, Man exploits Man.

Under Communism, it's the exact opposite.
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Reply #18 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:55pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:29pm:
And one of the ways to accomplish that goal is to ensure that the values and norms that promote small government are popularly understood.


That's a good point, but you don't accomplish that goal by protesting such things as police violence on a national level. I've never seen you criticize one of these gatherings. Instead, at least online, you jump onto the bandwagon accusing the police of things you shouldn't worry about unless they affect you directly.

That may sound harsh, but the result of you involving yourself in  the business of another community is bigger, more centralized control over all of us.

The old saying about minding your own business applies here.
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:56pm
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Limey wrote on Nov 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:
Part of the appeal of socislism


Socialism has no appeal, none.
  
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