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The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:47am
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She was 14 years old at the time. Roy Moore was a 32-year-old prosecutor. He took her to his home in the woods, the woman says, removed both her clothes and his and then molested her.

The Washington Post’s story about Moore — centered around that allegation — is detailed and persuasive. It included named sources, corroborating evidence and multiple disturbing incidents.

After the story’s publication yesterday, the most common reaction from other Republicans was a conditional condemnation that revolved around the words “if true.” A spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence said, “If true, this would disqualify anyone from serving in office.” Mitch McConnell’s statement was similar.

It’s a wholly insufficient response.

I understand why senators might make their immediate response conditional. Maybe they didn’t yet read the story. But once you have read the story, there is only one decent response: Moore, the Republican nominee to become Alabama’s next senator, needs to quit the race immediately.

The “if true” response wrongly suggests that there will be some final reckoning of facts to remove any doubt about what Moore did. But there won’t be. He will likely continue denying the allegations, and people will have to choose between The Post’s reams of evidence and Moore’s lack of it.


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Reply #1 - Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:49am
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We have threads on this. One of which has over 100 replies.
  
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The FAKE NEWS has become so mainstream that it is very difficult to know what accusations are possibly true and what one's are total fabrications designed to smear one's political opponents.

The True Cowardice seems to be those who fail to call out their own politicians and media sources for polluting the political atmosphere with accusations which prove to be made up lies.
  

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The perfect solution to all this is if someone is accused of sexual harassment or rape if found to be true they go to prison if found not guilty the accuser or accusers go to prison. Personally I believe a lot of this is a new ploy by the Democrats to steal elections.Democrats once a crook always a crook
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 10th, 2017 at 11:53am
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Are you saying Moore is guilty until prove innocent, Vypr?
  


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Harry and company wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:49am:
We have threads on this. One of which has over 100 replies.


That one has been hijacked, though.  Of course, it would have been just as easy to unhijack it with the OP as it was to start a new thread.

I wouldn't call it "cowardice," but I think a better response would have been "These are disturbing allegations, but that's all they are right now.  He's still on the ballot and the voters can decide how much credence to give to them.  If he's elected, I'll work with him to Make America Great Again."
  

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EF wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 11:58am:
That one has been hijacked, though.  Of course, it would have been just as easy to unhijack it with the OP as it was to start a new thread.

I wouldn't call it "cowardice," but I think a better response would have been "These are disturbing allegations, but that's all they are right now.  He's still on the ballot and the voters can decide how much credence to give to them.  If he's elected, I'll work with him to Make America Great Again." 


You really need to get a life, piggy.
  
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RWB wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 11:41am:
The perfect solution to all this is if someone is accused of sexual harassment or rape if found to be true they go to prison if found not guilty the accuser or accusers go to prison. Personally I believe a lot of this is a new ploy by the Democrats to steal elections.Democrats once a crook always a crook


Well, the accused does have the ability to sue for defamation of character, libel, slander, whatever.  I am not saying it's proof of guilt if the accused decides not to do it, but it does make one wonder about guilt if the accused promises to sue and then doesn't follow up on it.  But Roy didn't promise to do that.  He just says it ain't so.  And the presumption of innocence is controlling in legal actions.  Not so much in personal opinion, though.  And politics is, and always has been, a dirty business.
  

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Harry and company wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
You really need to get a life, piggy.


Said the guy who has had 25 posts on this forum in less than one hour.
  

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EF wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
Said the guy who has had 25 posts on this forum in less than one hour.


I actually posses a brain capable of thought, and do not have to reduce myself to such as that Hillary thing you post 100 times a day.
  
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