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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #30 - Nov 11th, 2017 at 6:54pm
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Frank1 wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 11:53am:
Are you saying Moore is guilty until prove innocent, Vypr?


Sounds like he is.  That's a problem with all the fervor over sexual harassment, an accusation is automatically accepted as being true, proof or not.

Yes, sexual assault and harassment should be punished, but proof is necessary. 
  

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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #31 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 6:24am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 11th, 2017 at 11:58am:
But... but... she was innocent and never proven guilty of anything... 

Never... Didn't she deserve a fair shake?

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Are you saying that she didn't get a fair shake?  If so, you've got to be kidding.  What she didn't do was try to get votes in the midwest, and they didn't vote for her in the electoral college.  Looser!
  
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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #32 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 11:28pm
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Vypr wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:47am:
The ‘If True’ Cowardice

She was 14 years old at the time. Roy Moore was a 32-year-old prosecutor. He took her to his home in the woods, the woman says, removed both her clothes and his and then molested her.

The Washington Post’s story about Moore — centered around that allegation — is detailed and persuasive. It included named sources, corroborating evidence and multiple disturbing incidents.

After the story’s publication yesterday, the most common reaction from other Republicans was a conditional condemnation that revolved around the words “if true.” A spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence said, “If true, this would disqualify anyone from serving in office.” Mitch McConnell’s statement was similar.

It’s a wholly insufficient response.

I understand why senators might make their immediate response conditional. Maybe they didn’t yet read the story. But once you have read the story, there is only one decent response: Moore, the Republican nominee to become Alabama’s next senator, needs to quit the race immediately.

The “if true” response wrongly suggests that there will be some final reckoning of facts to remove any doubt about what Moore did. But there won’t be. He will likely continue denying the allegations, and people will have to choose between The Post’s reams of evidence and Moore’s lack of it.


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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/opinion/roy-moore-republicans.html?_r=0&re...


This article is cowardice.

The idea that you would so fear any challenge to an accusation that you would completely ignore truth in favor of blind acceptance of said allegation is cowardly and dangerous.
  
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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #33 - Nov 12th, 2017 at 11:55pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 11th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Let's see now.  Benghazi.  Clinton email.  Birth certificate. 

Greg


Greg, under Obama, none of it was investigated. There was proof of Hillary’s emails, and nothing was done about it. It was pushed under the rug, shhhhhhh.
And Benghazi too. How many soldiers came forward telling us they were told to stand down?
You only see what you want to see.
Without the facts and proof, Hillary was able to run for president. Do you really believe she is innocent? Or just clever? How many of you wonder one way or the other?
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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #34 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 12:16am
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And I am not sticking up for this guy. If he did what he is accused of he deserves not to be elected. And where were the fathers of these girls? If it were my daughter, or yours, what would you do? I know what I would have done. And my daughters knew they could count on me. Even today and they are grown up. The oldest one is armed. And she and her middle sister are no one to fool with. They all know karate, and the youngest one carries mace. Then they have their brother, the oldest. Oh oh, I remember when in 8th grade, someone getting rough with his sister on the way home from school, and he threw him off an 8 foot high wall. Like father, like son. Lucky the kid wasn’t seriously injured. I didn’t get sued. And again I had to go to the school one time. He put another one in the locker where the kids were supposed to put their coats in the winter.

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Re: The ‘If True’ Cowardice
Reply #35 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm
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so many anecdotes so little time  Angry
  
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