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Reply #20 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 8:18am
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EF wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
unless the FBI is investigating.   they don't investigate innocent people, remember?

The FBI have two types of investigations within their purview; one is criminal and the other is foreign intelligence and counter-intelligence investigations.  As we know, a purely criminal investigation may lead to a foreign intelligence investigation, while a foreign intelligence investigation may lead to criminal investigations.  Unlike a foreign intelligence investigation, a criminal investigation must have a crime to be investigated which falls within the statutory jurisdiction of the FBI.  Mere allegations of potential criminal conduct are insufficient to cause any criminal investigation.  A criminal complaint must be drawn and the sworn allegations must include specific conduct which violates specific statute(s) of the criminal code.
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:13am
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EF wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
unless the FBI is investigating.   they don't investigate innocent people, remember?

The FBI is investigating Moore?  Do you have a link?  Let me remind you of YOUR protection under the Constitution, INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.  Moore has not even been charged of a crime of over 40 years ago.  Now we do know that the Clinton's are notorious of digging dirt or manufacturing lies, ie. dossier of Trump, to tilt or destroy a candidate.  Yes, I know that the liberal story is that this is true but everyone of reputable reporting have already concluded that this was a fabricated story paid for by Hillary.
  


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Reply #22 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:24am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:13am:
I know that the liberal story is that this is true but everyone of reputable reporting have already concluded that this was a fabricated story paid for by Hillary.



Someone should investigate Hillary .. .  7 times.

  
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Reply #23 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:28am
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Uncle Ichabod wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:24am:
Someone should investigate Hillary .. .  7 times.


We already have the testimony of the head of the FBI agreeing that she lied to Congress, a clear violation of the law.  If we could be honest, and I doubt it, there has been more then ample evidence to bring charges against Hillary, but the prior administration was clearly covering for her.
  


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Reply #24 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:29am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:13am:
The FBI is investigating Moore?  Do you have a link?  Let me remind you of YOUR protection under the Constitution, INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.  Moore has not even been charged of a crime of over 40 years ago.  Now we do know that the Clinton's are notorious of digging dirt or manufacturing lies, ie. dossier of Trump, to tilt or destroy a candidate.  Yes, I know that the liberal story is that this is true but everyone of reputable reporting have already concluded that this was a fabricated story paid for by Hillary.

I believe EF is conflating the ongoing Foreign Counter Intelligence Investigation and the subsequent unrelated criminal indictments of Americans caught up in this investigation as opposed to sensational tabloid story in The Washington Post which has turned into a media and political circus, where there has been no report of any criminal investigation ( no real charge).

The witch hunt of the FBI Russia Counter Intelligence Investigation is blurring the distinction of what is a criminal matter and what may be purely political.  The media is all to happy to exploit the confusion!  Anyone recall the case of Twanna Brawley?
  

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Reply #25 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:32am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:13am:
The FBI is investigating Moore?  Do you have a link?  Let me remind you of YOUR protection under the Constitution, INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.  Moore has not even been charged of a crime of over 40 years ago.  Now we do know that the Clinton's are notorious of digging dirt or manufacturing lies, ie. dossier of Trump, to tilt or destroy a candidate.  Yes, I know that the liberal story is that this is true but everyone of reputable reporting have already concluded that this was a fabricated story paid for by Hillary.


No, genius.  I am reminding you of YOUR assertion concerning crooked Hillary and the exception that you made then for "innocent until proven guilty."
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:41am
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EF wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:32am:
No, genius.  I am reminding you of YOUR assertion concerning crooked Hillary and the exception that you made then for "innocent until proven guilty."

There is a distinct difference, one subject has multiple evidence of wrongdoing, the other is simply an allegation with no evidence to substantiate.  In fact, if we were honest, and we are not, there should have never been an investigation regarding Trump and Putin because no evidence was submitted to substantiate the claim outside a fake dossier.  We even have the testimony of the head of the FBI stating that Hillary has lied to Congress during her testimony.  we took possession of her private server that had classified and above intel on it.  These are conclusive evidence that SHOULD have resulted in federal charges being brought on her.  I can state without any doubt that you and I would have had charges brought against us for doing the same thing.  That is the difference between Moore and Hillary or even Trump.  By the way, I have no desire to insult a fellow brother.
  


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Reply #27 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:42am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:41am:
There is a distinct difference, one subject has multiple evidence of wrongdoing, the other is simply an allegation with no evidence to substantiate.  In fact, if we were honest, and we are not, there should have never been an investigation regarding Trump and Putin because no evidence was submitted to substantiate the claim outside a fake dossier.  We even have the testimony of the head of the FBI stating that Hillary has lied to Congress during her testimony.  we took possession of her private server that had classified and above intel on it.  These are conclusive evidence that SHOULD have resulted in federal charges being brought on her.  I can state without any doubt that you and I would have had charges brought against us for doing the same thing.  That is the difference between Moore and Hillary or even Trump.


Back to the BWAH! defense, I see.
  

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Reply #28 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:47am
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EF, once the dossier is proven to be a lie we have other criminal actions that should be investigated, such as, was this dossier the ground work to spy on private citizens?  I don't care if it's Trump or Obama, to weaponize our intelligence agencies to spy on American citizens is a clear breach of trust and the duties that have been outlined for our agencies.  Our Constitution is very clear regarding what is needed to permit such an action AND if they used a false document then we SHOULD attempt to determine who willfully perpetrated this act and bring them to justice.  But, I have zero confidence that even this administration will do it's duty.
  


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Reply #29 - Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:49am
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EF wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 9:42am:
Back to the BWAH! defense, I see.

No, we are talking about the proper protocol of applying justice evenly across all people regardless of their political status.  I take it personally that I was required to sign the exact same document she was and she was not held to a similar standard I was.  Now I don't know about you but I have zero desire to live in a class based society where justice is applied to one class of people and not another, do you?
  


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