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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #20 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:19am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:58am:
There is evidence of a great flood everywhere, IF you are willing to approach the subject open minded.  Whale bones in desert, sea fossils on the mountains, canyons that speak of a massive flood.  Where did the water come from?

Genesis 7, verse 11 gives us a picture of this cataclysmic event. The New American Standard version presents this verse as "the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened."



The sea shells on high ground are a result of rising ground due to tectonics or actions of the Earth’s core.

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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #21 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:16pm
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Limey wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:19am:
The sea shells on high ground are a result of rising ground due to tectonics or actions of the Earth’s core.

You must know that.

No, but that is what some want to believe.  Then there are whale bones in the desert.  the problem is there is all sorts of evidence of a massive flood and yet science would rather just explain it away rather then attempt to prove it one way or the other.  Take for instance that science theorizes that our planet was seeded our water from a meteorite or comet.  Again, explaining away without evidence to even support their own theory.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3198337/Stunning-images-reveal-fo...
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Reply #22 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:32am
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Seawolf?..  Have you ever used a GPS unit when navigating to a new destination.?

  
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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #23 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:48am
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The Wreath of Khan wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:32am:
Seawolf?..  Have you ever used a GPS unit when navigating to a new destination.?


And?
  


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Reply #24 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:50am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:54am:
Have you read the Bible completely through?  I have actually addressed some of the alleged contradictions.  How about the overall context of scripture, man born into sin who has been redeemed by his God through his son Jesus Christ, what about the message?


"I have actually addressed some of the alleged contradictions"
Now that be funny.

Aren't there some 600+ laws about everything from pork and shrimp to cotton polyester blends? Seems that might take volumns of addressing.
  

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Reply #25 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:53am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:16pm:
No, but that is what some want to believe.  Then there are whale bones in the desert.  the problem is there is all sorts of evidence of a massive flood and yet science would rather just explain it away rather then attempt to prove it one way or the other.  Take for instance that science theorizes that our planet was seeded our water from a meteorite or comet.  Again, explaining away without evidence to even support their own theory.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3198337/Stunning-images-reveal-fo...


Wasn't that flood the whole earth story taken from the Phoenicians?
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 1:06pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:50am:
"I have actually addressed some of the alleged contradictions"
Now that be funny.

Aren't there some 600+ laws about everything from pork and shrimp to cotton polyester blends? Seems that might take volumns of addressing.

Now that be true.  You want to talk about the laws jet's just discuss the Mosaic law as given to Moses.  That is the foundation of God's law.
  


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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #27 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:24pm
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:48am:
And?



Well it was sort'ofa yes or no question but I'll take your 'And' to mean yes.

To offer you another fact about the motion of the continents for you to ignore, I'll say that GPS has been used since the 80s to track the movement of Earth's plates to within mm accuracy.  As such GPS measurements have indeed shown the European and African plates moving away from the North American plates..  GPS has shown that the Himalayas are rising as the Indian plate pushes north into the Eurasian plate and the Pacific plate subducting under the North American plate formed the rockies.

In other words GPS proves that the processes that put sea shells on top of mountains and whale bones in deserts is still occurring.  Concocting a myth about a  global flood is not necessary to explain these things.
  
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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #28 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:32am
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The Wreath of Khan wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Well it was sort'ofa yes or no question but I'll take your 'And' to mean yes.

To offer you another fact about the motion of the continents for you to ignore, I'll say that GPS has been used since the 80s to track the movement of Earth's plates to within mm accuracy.  As such GPS measurements have indeed shown the European and African plates moving away from the North American plates..  GPS has shown that the Himalayas are rising as the Indian plate pushes north into the Eurasian plate and the Pacific plate subducting under the North American plate formed the rockies.

In other words GPS proves that the processes that put sea shells on top of mountains and whale bones in deserts is still occurring.  Concocting a myth about a  global flood is not necessary to explain these things.


Another interesting detail about GPS is that it confirms both theories of relativity, given that in order for it to be accurate you have to apply the corrections predicted by these two theories. Einstein vindicated by the use of a day-to-day application.
  

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Re: Genesis 3:5 ...Shall Be As gods...
Reply #29 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 7:32am
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The Wreath of Khan wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Well it was sort'ofa yes or no question but I'll take your 'And' to mean yes.

To offer you another fact about the motion of the continents for you to ignore, I'll say that GPS has been used since the 80s to track the movement of Earth's plates to within mm accuracy.  As such GPS measurements have indeed shown the European and African plates moving away from the North American plates..  GPS has shown that the Himalayas are rising as the Indian plate pushes north into the Eurasian plate and the Pacific plate subducting under the North American plate formed the rockies.

In other words GPS proves that the processes that put sea shells on top of mountains and whale bones in deserts is still occurring.  Concocting a myth about a  global flood is not necessary to explain these things.

Yet, GPS does not explain away the layers of sediment that indicate a flooding in places like the Grand Canyon.

Evidence 1: Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents

We find fossils of sea creatures in rock layers that cover all the continents. For example, most of the rock layers in the walls of Grand Canyon (more than a mile above sea level) contain marine fossils. Fossilized shellfish are even found in the Himalayas.

Focus in: High & Dry Sea Creatures
Evidence 2: Rapid burial of plants and animals

We find extensive fossil “graveyards” and exquisitely preserved fossils. For example, billions of nautiloid fossils are found in a layer within the Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon. This layer was deposited catastrophically by a massive flow of sediment (mostly lime sand). The chalk and coal beds of Europe and the United States, and the fish, ichthyosaurs, insects, and other fossils all around the world, testify of catastrophic destruction and burial.

Focus in: The World’s a Graveyard
Evidence 3: Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas

We find rock layers that can be traced all the way across continents—even between continents—and physical features in those strata indicate they were deposited rapidly. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days.

Focus in: Transcontinental Rock Layers
Evidence 4: Sediment transported long distances

We find that the sediments in those widespread, rapidly deposited rock layers had to be eroded from distant sources and carried long distances by fast-moving water. For example, the sand for the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon (Arizona) had to be eroded and transported from the northern portion of what is now the United States and Canada. Furthermore, water current indicators (such as ripple marks) preserved in rock layers show that for “300 million years” water currents were consistently flowing from northeast to southwest across all of North and South America, which, of course, is only possible over weeks during a global Flood.

Focus in: Sand Transported Cross Country
Evidence 5: Rapid or no erosion between strata

We find evidence of rapid erosion, or even of no erosion, between rock layers. Flat, knife-edge boundaries between rock layers indicate continuous deposition of one layer after another, with no time for erosion. For example, there is no evidence of any “missing” millions of years (of erosion) in the flat boundary between two well-known layers of Grand Canyon—the Coconino Sandstone and the Hermit Formation. Another impressive example of flat boundaries at Grand Canyon is the Redwall Limestone and the strata beneath it.

Focus in: No Slow and Gradual Erosion
Evidence 6: Many strata laid down in rapid succession

Rocks do not normally bend; they break because they are hard and brittle. But in many places we find whole sequences of strata that were bent without fracturing, indicating that all the rock layers were rapidly deposited and folded while still wet and pliable before final hardening. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone in Grand Canyon is folded at a right angle (90°) without evidence of breaking. Yet this folding could only have occurred after the rest of the layers had been deposited, supposedly over “480 million years,” while the Tapeats Sandstone remained wet and pliable.

Focus in: Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured
  


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