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Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:12pm
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Without Mandates, millions for Americans won't want to purchase comprehensive plans which cover everything from soup to nuts!   (sex change operations to abortions to contraceptives for nuns!)

Instead their will be less comprehensive, more affordable plans made available.

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Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)      Senate Finance Committee to include repeal of individual mandate in tax bill 
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The proposed Republican tax reform bill will include repeal of Obamacare's individual mandate requiring most Americans to have some form of health insurance or pay a tax penalty, GOP leaders said Tuesday.

The decision means that Republicans, yet again in 2017, will attempt to gut a key element of the Affordable Care Act.

So far, such efforts have failed because not enough Republican senators have backed the idea of repealing the mandate, which would lead to an estimated 13 million more people lacking health insurance.

"We're optimistic that inserting individual mandate repeal would be helpful," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. on Tuesday afternoon after a lunch meeting with the Republican conference.

Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said, "I'm pleased the Senate Finance Committee has accepted my proposal to repeal the Obamacare individual mandate in the tax legislation."

"Repealing the mandate pays for more tax cuts for working families and protects them from being fined by the IRS for not being able to afford insurance that Obamacare made unaffordable in the first place," Cotton said. I urge the House to include the mandate repeal in their tax legislation.

Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Tex., said, "We're going to repeal the tax on poor Americans."

Cornyn said the majority of people who pay the individual mandate tax penalty for not having insurance have lower incomes."


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/senate-leaders-say-they-will-consider-repeal-of-...
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:15pm
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IF, they pass it sparky.
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:20pm
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Vypr wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
IF, they pass it sparky.


Might make the "death spiral" it's been in for something like 8 years speed up a little.    Grin

If it happens.  And that's a big if with this Congress.  It mostly runs around with its hair on fire.
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:27pm
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Vypr wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
IF, they pass it sparky.

Didn't read the article, did you, Spakplug!  Grin

" Sen. John Thune, R-SD, told the Washington Post that there are 50 Republican senators willing to support the mandate-repealing tax reform bill. That would be enough to pass it, with a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence. "
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:28pm
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EF wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Might make the "death spiral" it's been in for something like 8 years speed up a little.    Grin

If it happens.  And that's a big if with this Congress.  It mostly runs around with its hair on fire.

How ironic if the desperately needed tax reform bill goes down in flames because of the Obamacare fixation.  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:30pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
Didn't read the article, did you, Spakplug!  Grin

" Sen. John Thune, R-SD, told the Washington Post that there are 50 Republican senators willing to support the mandate-repealing tax reform bill. That would be enough to pass it, with a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence. "

They said a few times they were going to get the health care bill passed also. How'd that work out? Of course they will talk things up as rosy. What do you think they will do, say, "OMG folks, we will try but it might all be doomed!!!11! Gaaaaahhhhh......" Politicians, what they say and what the reality is rarely overlap.
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:34pm
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Vypr wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:28pm:
How ironic if the desperately needed tax reform bill goes down in flames because of the Obamacare fixation.  Roll Eyes


I think the tax "reform" bill is probably in a death spiral already.
  

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EF wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:34pm:
I think the tax "reform" bill is probably in a death spiral already.

No, that's Obamacare that's already in a death spiral, but it's taking far too long to allow it to die of it's own terminal illness.  Evil Republicans are going to push grandma's wheelchair off the cliff!   Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:55pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
No, that's Obamacare that's already in a death spiral, but it's taking far too long to allow it to die of it's own terminal illness.  Evil Republicans are going to push grandma's wheelchair off the cliff!   Roll Eyes


Yes, I know.  I can see the political cartoon now.  Der Fuhrer is standing over a corpse labeled "Obamacare."  Der Fuhrer is holding a smoking gun, and there is a hole between the eyes of the corpse.  Der Fuhrer is saying, "See, I told you it was in a death spiral!"
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
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EF wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:55pm:
Yes, I know.  I can see the political cartoon now.  Der Fuhrer is standing over a corpse labeled "Obamacare."  Der Fuhrer is holding a smoking gun, and there is a hole between the eyes of the corpse.  Der Fuhrer is saying, "See, I told you it was in a death spiral!"

remember the ad with the guy that looked like Paul Ryan pushing grandma's wheelchair off the cliff?
  

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