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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:26pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
remember the ad with the guy that looked like Paul Ryan pushing grandma's wheelchair off the cliff?


I've always wondered why people fall for that crap.
  
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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:35pm
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:26pm:
I've always wondered why people fall for that crap.


Look at how many Liberals went out on the anniversary of Trump's election and screamed helplessly in the sky...simply because their Leaders told them to...

Stupid iz az Stoooopid does!
  

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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:48pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:35pm:
Look at how many Liberals went out on the anniversary of Trump's election and screamed helplessly in the sky...simply because their Leaders told them to...

Stupid iz az Stoooopid does!


Some of them are still baying at the moon.
  
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Harry and company wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:48pm:
Some of them are still baying at the moon.

kinda makes you just feel good to be alive, doesn't it!  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
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Let the caterwauling begin.
  

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Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm
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Amazing that they are incapable of seeing just how foolish they are.
  


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Reply #16 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:33am
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Without Mandates, millions for Americans won't want to purchase comprehensive plans which cover everything from soup to nuts!   (sex change operations to abortions to contraceptives for nuns!)

Instead their will be less comprehensive, more affordable plans made available.

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Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)      Senate Finance Committee to include repeal of individual mandate in tax bill 
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The proposed Republican tax reform bill will include repeal of Obamacare's individual mandate requiring most Americans to have some form of health insurance or pay a tax penalty, GOP leaders said Tuesday.

The decision means that Republicans, yet again in 2017, will attempt to gut a key element of the Affordable Care Act.

So far, such efforts have failed because not enough Republican senators have backed the idea of repealing the mandate, which would lead to an estimated 13 million more people lacking health insurance.

"We're optimistic that inserting individual mandate repeal would be helpful," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. on Tuesday afternoon after a lunch meeting with the Republican conference.

Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said, "I'm pleased the Senate Finance Committee has accepted my proposal to repeal the Obamacare individual mandate in the tax legislation."

"Repealing the mandate pays for more tax cuts for working families and protects them from being fined by the IRS for not being able to afford insurance that Obamacare made unaffordable in the first place," Cotton said. I urge the House to include the mandate repeal in their tax legislation.

Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Tex., said, "We're going to repeal the tax on poor Americans."

Cornyn said the majority of people who pay the individual mandate tax penalty for not having insurance have lower incomes."


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/senate-leaders-say-they-will-consider-repeal-of-...



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Reply #17 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:35am
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The Original Wally wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:35pm:
Look at how many Liberals went out on the anniversary of Trump's election and screamed helplessly in the sky...simply because their Leaders told them to...

Stupid iz az Stoooopid does!



Yep, three of those protest were in your great state of NY(HINT)?

Did you check any out?
  

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Reply #18 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:00am
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Luther wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:35am:
Yep, three of those protest were in your great state of NY(HINT)?

Did y   Cryou check any out?

yep...I am a prisoner in Blue State America!   Cry

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Re: Death Knell of Obamacare: Senate Tax Reform repeals Mandates!
Reply #19 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:52am
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As usual on this forum when someone brings up a topic for discussion it turns into a match of insults and not much is said.

   The tax reform has to be paid for!
   The subsidies for the mandate cost a lot of money!
   The then under insured and the not insured will be back on everybody’s dime!

Us companies pay some of the highest taxes in the world (https://taxfoundation.org/corporate-income-tax-rates-around-the-world-2017/), but Nobody requires the US-companies to help pay for heath insurance costs or even requires to offer health insurance.
Since the tax cuts mainly benefits the companies, there should be a law that every employer has to insure and is required to help with paying the premiums. That is a main reason why the corporate taxes in the rest of the developed world are lower than here. 
In addition the low new tax rate should only apply to US-generated income and not to the “Apples” of the companies.
  
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