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Reply #20 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm
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Genesee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:04pm:
You said about this book "...It describes how people dealt with the uncertainties of life before the government got involved and created a welfare state and what that looked like in practice..."

What knowledge do you intend to gain from this in order to bridge a gap? A gap of what?


I'm shocked that someone as astute as you would need to ask something so obvious.

What knowledge is gained from reading this book? Simple. The knowledge that the state is not necessary for the provision of welfare benefits and social insurance.

This is an empirical account of people dealing with these issues on their own, in voluntary associations.

Many people have never heard of this and have no knowledge of this system being a viable alternative. They don't know its strengths and weaknesses. And thus there is a gap in their knowledge about the nature of welfare and public assistance.

They see it as something that of necessity has to be tax funded. And the truth of the matter is that it is not.

Thus the gap.

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Personally, I think you are just trying to troll this thread. There is no way you are responding in good faith. You're not that stupid.

But, that's just my opinion.  Smiley

  

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Reply #21 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:17pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 2:59pm:
The implication being that no one knows anything that you do not. Must be nice!


That would be an assumption. And that would not be what I implied.  Kiss

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Of course, this is beneath you, right?


Well, no, because this is a false implication.

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You suggested it when you said "knowledge is a personal, private endeavor" and questioned the point of reading.

You seem to think reading is a waste of time because nothing can be known by others that you don't already know or cannot learn on your own in a person and private endeavor.



It's not a waste of time if you feel that is what you need to bridge some sort of knowledge gap between what you know and what you do not know that others might. Of course, I never suggested that reading was a waste of time...
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:25pm
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Genesee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:17pm:
That would be an assumption. And that would not be what I implied. 


Seems to me it is exactly what you implied whether you intended it or not.
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Well, no, because this is a false implication.

Maybe it is or maybe its not. One thing is for sure. You have not done anything to give a different impression.

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It's not a waste of time if you feel that is what you need to bridge some sort of knowledge gap between what you know and what you do not know that others might.


Okay. Good. But earlier you argued that when other people know stuff you don't, this is not a gap in knowledge. But now you admit that there is a gap between what you know and what others might.

So what happened?

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Of course, I never suggested that reading was a waste of time...

You kind of did when you wondered out loud why people would read books.

Genesee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 1:23pm:
Why do you need to read books?

  

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Reply #23 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:35pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Seems to me it is exactly what you implied whether you intended it or not.


Since when are implications not implied, book-reading knowledge-gapper?

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Maybe it is or maybe its not.


Oh, my 50/50...

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One thing is for sure. You have not done anything to give a different impression.


Other than not implying what you say I have?

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Okay. Good. But earlier you argued that when other people know stuff you don't, this is not a gap in knowledge. But now you admit that there is a gap between what you know and what others might.


Never denied a gap. Wondered why people read to close the gap.

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So what happened?


Nothing.

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You kind of did when you wondered out loud why people would read books.



1. I didn't make a big to-do about reading a book.
2. I couldn't care less of a knowledge gap... --> nothing <--
3. Did I embarrass you?
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:45pm
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Genesee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:35pm:

Since when are implications not implied,
book-reading knowledge-gapper?


I'm not sure who made the point that implications are not implied but whoever did needs to pick up a book!

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Other than not implying what you say I have?

I have done nothing but take your words at their face value.

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Never denied a gap. Wondered why people read to close the gap.


Reading is a way of sharing knowledge. And gaining knowledge closes the gap.

1+1=2

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Did I embarrass you?


No. You are making me grin, though.
  

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Reply #25 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:49pm
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Genesee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 1:23pm:
Why do you need to read books?

Lol.

Legitimate lol.

This is an amazing question.
  

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Reply #26 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:58pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:49pm:
Lol.

Legitimate lol.

This is an amazing question.

It's like we're living in a Bill Hicks stand up routine.

  

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Reply #27 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 4:04pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 3:49pm:
Lol.

Legitimate lol.

This is an amazing question.


Been through this with the boy. I'm assuming it's an ego thing with him. You?
  

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Reply #28 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 4:04pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 2:51pm:
In some ways I agree. The left needs to learn some lessons that could be considered "rightwing." Of course I would recast these lessons as classically liberal but thats a minor distinction. The fact is I agree that we need a greater appreciation for individualism, markets, private property and competition.

I wouldn't stop at the left though as it concerns these ideas. It seems to me the right needs the lesson just as bad when it comes to issues surrounding immigration, war and drug prohibition.

Your comments bring to mind something I once read somewhere concerning the evolution of Christianity.  It's as if the imperfect reality of St. Peter's catholic (universal) Christian Church were and idol carved out of "the rock" chosen by Jesus Christ, during his mortal life on earth.  This carved rock revealed man's imperfections from what had been envisioned. (sort of like Plato's World Soul versus reality).

This imperfect graven image eventually fell over and broke into many various fragments.  Ever since this "reformation" well meaning people cling to pieces ( and ear, a nose, etc.) and truly believe they have the one and only Divinely inspired answer!

I doubt this is where I read this, but as I wrote this, I recall that a very long time ago, I read
" The True Believer " by Eric Hoffer.  It seems appropriate to both politics and religion, as well as many other "organizations" of man.  I also recall the words of my Marxist Mentor " I'd never belong to any organization that would consider having me as a member "  ( ~ Groucho Marx) Wink
  

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Re: Book project
Reply #29 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 4:06pm
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Maybe Gen means that books are not the only way to glean knowledge? You can also learn things via videos, lectures, etc.

Best wishes on this endeavor, TL. I can't contribute because, well, you know. Smiley
  

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