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'Dreamers', Are A Win Win For Democrats
Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:03am
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Yep,  even if the Dems don't go along and fund the 'Wall'  republicans will not deport them

So in other words no change Wink

Also, I don't remember Dreamers as part of a bargaining chip for the wall during the Trump presidential campaign do you?

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Re: 'Dreamers', Are A Win Win For Democrats
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:23am
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Luther wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:03am:
Yep,  even if the Dems don't go along and fund the 'Wall'  republicans will not deport them

So in other words no change Wink

Also, I don't remember Dreamers as part of a bargaining chip for the wall during the Trump presidential campaign do you?

Trump: NO Amnesty!

The issue at hand is whether the Democrats shut down the government over the Dreamers.  They are making DACA a bargaining chip for passing the Budget this month.   Trump extended the Deferment of the deportation of these DACA illegals until March. 

How was it bad for Republicans if they shut down the government over the thing they wanted, during Obama's years, yet now it's somehow a good things for Democrats to shut down the government over their Pet Project!   Obama and the Democrats could have done something about them way back when they controlled all three branches of government!
  

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Re: 'Dreamers', Are A Win Win For Democrats
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Wally Wants a Wall wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:23am:
The issue at hand is whether the Democrats shut down the government over the Dreamers.  They are making DACA a bargaining chip for passing the Budget this month.   Trump extended the Deferment of the deportation of these DACA illegals until March. 

How was it bad for Republicans if they shut down the government over the thing they wanted, during Obama's years, yet now it's somehow a good things for Democrats to shut down the government over their Pet Project!   Obama and the Democrats could have done something about them way back when they controlled all three branches of government!



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The issue at hand is whether the Democrats shut down the government over the Dreamers.


Yes and no

The Dreamers stay regardless what happens with the budget
  

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Luther wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:27am:
Yes and no

The Dreamers stay regardless what happens with the budget

I agree.  If they keep their nose clean nobody's going to be rounding them up.  However, if a young illegal who used to be covered by DACA status, is a serious felon, then such person will not be given a pass and they'll get the boot.  Not all of these young illegals are college kids and hard working assets for OUR country!  It's very arbitrary to even consider waving a wand and dealing with a subset of the illegals, rather than as individuals! 

Regardless of if/when they ever grant them legal status, do you agree that chin migration needs to stop as part of this deal?

DACA needs to be part of an Immigration reform debate apart from our budget.  If there is a related budget cost, then their status can be deferred until the law kicks in after next years budget (and the midterm election).
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