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North & South Korea Breakthrough; What Next?
Jan 9th, 2018 at 5:45pm
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North and South Korea Have a Breakthrough. What Next?

On Tuesday, for the first time in two years, North and South Korea held high-level talks in the Demilitarized Zone. The main subject was North Korea’s participation in next month’s Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea (February 9–25), but the implications for a broader dialogue were obvious.

While hawkish critics fear the talks are a “trap” or “wedge” that could divide South Korea from the United States, the talks represent a welcome step back from the nuclear brink. The South Koreans seem perfectly capable of achieving their goal of preventing a war on the peninsula while maintaining their strong military alliance with the United States...

The talks have shown immediate progress. As of right now, North Korea has agreed to send a figure-skating pair to the games, and the International Olympic Committee extended the deadline for the registration of these athletes in an effort to support the inter-Korean dialogue. The North and South Korean teams will march together in the opening ceremonies. This agreement comes just days after the North and South reestablished a hotline between the two nations to prevent military misunderstandings and miscalculations, and the United States agreed to the South’s request to reschedule two large joint military exercises until April, after the Olympics.

The talks will continue for a second day on Wednesday, led by veteran negotiators. To lead its delegation, North Korea sent Ri Son-gwon, who serves as chairman of the “Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Country.” South Korea sent Unification Minister Cho Myoung-gyon. Both sides also included vice-minister-level officials from their respective Unification Ministries. The significance of this, according to South Korean news outlets, may be to discuss issues related to reopening tourism in North Korea’s Mount Kumgang, the Kaesong Industrial Complex and family reunions. The diplomats on both sides have had extensive experience negotiating on these issues. They are not new to the game.

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Was going to post this in Wally's previous thread, but couldn't find it. Any way, an update on the North-South talks.
  
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Re: North & South Korea Breakthrough; What Next?
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:02pm
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If history is a guide, NK will play for time and continue working on nukes and missile tech. No reason to think otherwise. They are playing the US well. They put themselves between the US and South Korea. Makes us look unreasonable if we challenge this.
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:37pm
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Vypr wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
If history is a guide, NK will play for time and continue working on nukes and missile tech. No reason to think otherwise. They are playing the US well. They put themselves between the US and South Korea. Makes us look unreasonable if we challenge this.

Trump (and Maddis and the rest of his Team) will not allow this.  The can has been kicked down the road to the point that North Korea must give up it's ambitions of further developing and stockpiling ICBMS and nuclear weapons. 

Kim Jung Un's father and grandfather used the strategy of threatening both South Korea and neighbors, including Japan.  During the last eight years of Obama's policy of strategic patience (doing nothing) Kim Jung Un has changed North Korea's policy to directly threatening the American homeland and our citizens, to engage in nuclear blackmail.

Even Obama realized that this can had been kicked down the road as far as any President of the United States can allow it.  Now they must stop their program and we are the ones who will have to do it (whether South Korean blinks or not).  The threat is toward United States' cities and the North Koreans are merely months away.

This article sounds far too much like Neville Chamberlain's bragging about having achieved " Peace in our Times " so there would be no need to stop Adolph Hitler, because Hitlar had agreed to stop< when the Euopean powers agreed to allow him to take only Chechoslovakia and the Sudatenland (as well as "Anschluss" anexation of Austria)
  

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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:05pm
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From a sovereignty perspective, I don't see how we can prevent another country from going nuclear. It's their right to do so.

At the same time, we have the right to look out for our own best interests - America first, remember - and that includes assassinating leaders of other countries if we think they pose a threat to our safety. We should assassinate Ping Pong Ill and also say, "If any of you slant-eyed kimchees even think about firing a missile at us, we will completely kill you and wipe you off the world's map." And we should mean it.
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:19pm
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Poor Wallys Almanac wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Trump (and Maddis and the rest of his Team) will not allow this.

By this, do you mean the talks or continued nuclear development? If the former, Trump has encouraged the talks thus far.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 12:07am
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The North and South Korean teams will march together in the opening ceremonies.


Wow. I hadn't been following developments here, but this seems like a big step.
  

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MJ wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 12:07am:
Wow. I hadn't been following developments here, but this seems like a big step.

North Koreans just owned the whole shooting match with that. Nuke development and missile development will march along at breakneck pace.
  

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This is just north korea playing a silly ass game in an attempt to keep the US off balance.  I remember non-interventionists saying in past years we should get out of korea because (--here comes the classic mantra  Smiley -) "it's none of our business".  They may have had a small point.

But now, it's not just korea - it's US!  A fat little dictator has threatened >>US<< with nukes! 

This Olympics gimmick has nothing to do with the fact that the US has to get nukes out of north korea - one way or another.
  
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patrick2 wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 2:11am:


This is just north korea playing a silly ass game in an attempt to keep the US off balance.  I remember non-interventionists saying in past years we should get out of korea because (--here comes the classic mantra  Smiley -) "it's none of our business".  They may have had a small point.

But now, it's not just korea - it's US!  A fat little dictator has threatened >>US<< with nukes! 

This Olympics gimmick has nothing to do with the fact that the US has to get nukes out of north korea - one way or another.


Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything like us having our army and navy parked on their doorstep blockading and telling them what to do or else for the last 70 years.  That means nothing.

Holy shit if 50 NK soldiers were stationed in Canada you would have a fit and want us to threaten nuke Canada.

This is why you shouldn't be allowed out of your mom's basement to go voting.
  

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Re: North & South Korea Breakthrough; What Next?
Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:12am
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Demos wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
By this, do you mean the talks or continued nuclear development? If the former, Trump has encouraged the talks thus far.

No, I meant that Trump can not allow them to further develop their nuclear and ICBM capabilities and expand their arsenal.  If he does, we will be under constant threat of nuclear blackmail and eventually lose some American cities and perhaps even cause the World War that the Appeasers hope to avoid.
  

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