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Re: Trump Meeting With Reps and Dems.
Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:41am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
Ok, listen to quite a bit of the meeting between Trump, the Reps and Dems and I have to say it was a brilliant move on his part to also have the media there.  It put all parties on the spot for DACA and the Wall in front of the media.  It was a brilliant tactical move that forced both sides to either step up or look like the party that is resisting.  Curious what others have to say about this.



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Re: Trump Meeting With Reps and Dems.
Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 9:20am
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On the one hand, this was a great display of transparency in government.  Very rare, too.  Trump didn't alert the congressionals that they'd be putting the meeting on TV, so they didn't have prepared statements and BS.  They just sat down and started talking.  I, for one, do not understand why this isn't done far more often, at all levels of government.

On the other hand, Trump made it clear he didn't understand the issues being negotiated, he contradicted himself repeatedly, he didn't seem to know basic terminology (like what a "clean" bill means), and he appeared to give up and tell the negotiators that he would sign whatever they came up with.  In other words, he didn't have a position of his own -- he just wanted a bill to sign.

In the end, the negotiations failed.  After the cameras were sent away, the two parties fell back on their familiar battle lines and nothing was agreed to.

But I do admit that I found this little window-opening a thrill.
  

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Seawolf wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
Ok, listen to quite a bit of the meeting between Trump, the Reps and Dems and I have to say it was a brilliant move on his part to also have the media there.  It put all parties on the spot for DACA and the Wall in front of the media.  It was a brilliant tactical move that forced both sides to either step up or look like the party that is resisting.  Curious what others have to say about this.

I say it was a dog and pony show.  Trump put this on to show that he was in charge and not losing it as indicated in Wolf's book.  But what it showed was that he is not a leader, had nothing constructive to add to the conversation and pissed off the republicans by agreeing with Democrat Dianne Feinstein on a clean DACA bill
  

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Re: Trump Meeting With Reps and Dems.
Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:36am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 9:29am:
I say it was a dog and pony show.  Trump put this on to show that he was in charge and not losing it as indicated in Wolf's book.  But what it showed was that he is not a leader, had nothing constructive to add to the conversation and pissed off the republicans by agreeing with Democrat Dianne Feinstein on a clean DACA bill

I thought your complaint about the Reps is their unwillingness to compromise.
  


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Re: Trump Meeting With Reps and Dems.
Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 12:57pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:36am:
I thought your complaint about the Reps is their unwillingness to compromise.

What compromises were made in yesterday's meeting?
  

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