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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #30 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:11am
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Demos wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
Well, there's a start.  Grin

OK, so Harry's in the form of Demos is trolling again.  How many sock puppets do you have Harry?
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Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, I will go to his funeral very, very soon.


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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #31 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:12am
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Maestro wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Ah, but unfortunately that's not the bottom line. Maybe you're different, but you know as well as I that which party is doing the gerrymandering very, very much determines which person is outraged most of the time.

I'd like to find a way to eliminate it, and I've read some proposals, but most of them rely on a unelected body, which is as problematic as the elected one, but in different ways, or rely on some sort of voting-by-party method which seems like it would bolster the two-party system over third parties.

I keep thinking there must be something like how you get someone to split the last piece of cake evenly between 2 people: one guy cuts and the other guy gets first pick. But I can't think of anything similar that would work with this much more complex cake.

Yeah, as FC mentioned, there is a case in Maryland as well.  Maryland is a very democratic state.  I am on the side of fairness.
  

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Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, I will go to his funeral very, very soon.


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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #32 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:15am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:11am:
OK, so Harry's in the form odf Demos is trolling again.  How many sock puppets do you have Harry?


Even though you don't realize it, you are my sockpuppet, Luke.
  

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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #33 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:42am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:11am:
OK, so Harry's in the form odf Demos is trolling again.  How many sock puppets do you have Harry?

You really do like to double down on dumb.
  
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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #34 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:59am
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Harrys Sockpuppet4335 wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:15am:
Even though you don't realize it, you are my sockpuppet, Luke.


to quote Mojo -- "I'm stealing this!"
  

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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #35 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 10:01am
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forgotten centrist wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:59am:
to quote Mojo -- "I'm stealing this!"


I wouldn't claim it to be absolutely original, so, go for it.
  

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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #36 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
It has been allowed because it was never challenged in court..  Now it has and the court rules against gerrymandering for political gain.


Dude...the quote you responded included a link that proves that it has been challenged in court and has not been struck down.

Here's a quote from that article which you obviously did not even look at:

"In the 2004 Vieth v. Jubelirer case, Justice Antonin Scalia’s ruling on Pennsylvania congressional districts “concluded that political gerrymandering claims are nonjusticiable because no judicially discernible and manageable standards for adjudicating such claims exist.”

Wads you're an idiot.
  

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Watched it.  A shotgun is for long ranged shooting.  That is why hunters like them.  An AR-15 is not.  That video was misleading.

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Reply #37 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 3:10pm
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Lomelis wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Dude...the quote you responded included a link that proves that it has been challenged in court and has not been struck down.

Here's a quote from that article which you obviously did not even look at:

"In the 2004 Vieth v. Jubelirer case, Justice Antonin Scalia’s ruling on Pennsylvania congressional districts “concluded that political gerrymandering claims are nonjusticiable because no judicially discernible and manageable standards for adjudicating such claims exist.”

Wads you're an idiot.

Not in this particular case, idiot.  Justice Roberts stated “Politics is a very important driving force” in redistricting, he said, “and those claims will be raised. And every one of them will come here for a decision on the merits. … We will have to decide in every case whether the Democrats win or the Republicans win.”

So since every case is decided on by it's merits, only an idiot would belive that one case is the decision for all cases.  In this particular case, it was found by the three judge panel that violations of three separate constitutional provisions. 

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The General Assembly violated the Equal Protection Clause, the panel said, “because the General Assembly enacted the plan with the intent of discriminating against voters who favored non-Republican candidates” and the plan “has had and likely will continue to have that effect,” which it said is not justified by any “legitimate state interest.”
Second, the panel said the partisan gerrymandering violated the First Amendment “by unjustifiably discriminating against voters based on their previous political expression and affiliation.” Osteen dissented from that portion of the opinion but otherwise concurred.
And finally, the panel said the gerrymandering violated the provisions of Article I of the Constitution, which gives states the power to draw up congressional districts, “by exceeding the scope of the General Assembly’s delegated authority to enact congressional regulations and interfering with the right of ‘the People’ to choose their Representatives.”


So therefore this case and any similar case has not been challenged in court you stupid asshole
  

Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #38 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 3:12pm
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Demos wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:42am:
You really do like to double down on dumb.

You are not credible if you refuse to tell me what I do not understand.  That is a trademark of Harry.  So if you are not Harry, to emulate a troll shows how much credibility you have.  You are an idiot Harry.
  

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Re: Federal court voids North Carolina’s GOP-drawn congressional map
Reply #39 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 3:19pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
You are not credible if you refuse to tell me what I do not understand.  That is a trademark of Harry.  So if you are not Harry, to emulate a troll shows how much credibility you have.  You are an idiot Harry.

Roll Eyes

Go back and read page 2 of this thread. You've claimed the following:

"The court does not allow gerrymandering for partisan gain" (It does).

"It has been allowed because it was never challenged in court" (It has been).

"The difference is that you need to show proof of Gerrymandering.  This may be the case" (That's already been argued in the Wisconsin case which the SCOTUS heard in October 2017).

As usual, you're out of your depth. Instead of acknowledging when you make an incorrect statement (or at the very least reading the links you're provided), you just choose to dig a little deeper.
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