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Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm
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Here again is my Five-Point Plan to combat illegal immigration on our southern border:

1. Remove any and all benefits to illegals currently in the U.S. No more allowing illegals in our schools. No more giving them any kind of housing or financial assistance. And no more giving them *ANY* kind of medical care, even in the case of life-threatening situations. They get absolutely nothing. THIS DOESN'T COST US ANY MONEY. IT SAVES US MONEY.

2. Any illegal found guilty of *ANY* crime is automatically put to death. No appeals. So our prisons will not have to bear the burden of these riff-raff. Our tax dollars will not be spent feeding, clothing and sheltering these people. THIS SAVES US MONEY.

3. Any company caught hiring illegals will be fined $100,000 per illegal. All monies raised from this will go into enforcement of this policy.

4. Armed patrols at our patrols. Illegal crossers will be shot on the spot. Admittedly, this will cost money. But maybe some of the funds raised from #3 can be allotted for this as well.

5. Eliminate the minimum wage. This will help alleviate the inevitable decline of illegal workers.

I guarantee you my plan would solve the problem very quickly. The basic premise is to express to illegals that they are not wanted here and will gain no benefit from being here.
  


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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm
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You must be the quintessence of cretinism and willful ignorance...
  

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BowHunter wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
You must be the quintessence of cretinism and willful ignorance...

Instead of attacking me, why don't you tell me what is wrong with my plan. Don't you think those steps would be effective?
  


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Jasmine wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Instead of attacking me, why don't you tell me what is wrong with my plan. Don't you think those steps would be effective?


Not everything you see in Batman comics is applicable to the real world.
  

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BowHunter wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
Not everything you see in Batman comics is applicable to the real world.

What specifically is wrong with my idea?
  


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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
What specifically is wrong with my idea?


Point 2 and 4 would see anybody involved in administering them jailed or executed under your law. 

If the US brought in laws allowing this, immediate trade sanctions from the whole world would apply, and you’d be screwed.


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Limey. wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Point 2 and 4 would see anybody involved in administering them jailed or executed under your law. 


We'd just change the law.

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If the US brought in laws allowing this, immediate trade sanctions from the whole world would apply, and you’d be screwed.

Good! We'd be hurting them, too. And we'd end all foreign aid and keep the money for ourselves. That's how it always should have been.

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I hope this helps. Feel free to pm me for an explanation of what ‘morality’ is, I know you Christians struggle a bit.

I think morality includes coming into a country *LEGALLY*, don't you? If you're trying to defend illegal behavior, you'd be the last person to talk about "morality."
  


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Limey. wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Point 2 and 4 would see anybody involved in administering them jailed or executed under your law. 

If the US brought in laws allowing this, immediate trade sanctions from the whole world would apply, and you’d be screwed.


I hope this helps. Feel free to pm me for an explanation of what ‘morality’ is, I know you Christians struggle a bit.



Point two I would change to murder, rape, kidnaping, and attempted murder. Not just any crime.

And point four. I would have mine fields the length of the wall. Then anyone that by miracle that makes it over. The guard may yell “stop or I will shoot” in their language and if they don’t stop, go ahead and shoot.
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point 1 & 2 would be ruled unconstitutional.

point 3 is a good start but without RICO suits to inflict real damages, read JAIL TIME, the fines simply become another cost of doing business.

point 4, patrols at our patrols, again as with 1&2 this would be ruled unconstitutional & probably get some law enforcement people sent to prison.

point ??? not sure how allowing lower wages would get rid of illegals but it would put a lot more Americans in poverty.

in short nice points if you ruled a dictatorship, which fortunately we do not live in.
  
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USyeah wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
point 1 & 2 would be ruled unconstitutional.

point 3 is a good start but without RICO suits to inflict real damages, read JAIL TIME, the fines simply become another cost of doing business.

point 4, patrols at our patrols, again as with 1&2 this would be ruled unconstitutional & probably get some law enforcement people sent to prison.

point ??? not sure how allowing lower wages would get rid of illegals but it would put a lot more Americans in poverty.

in short nice points if you ruled a dictatorship, which fortunately we do not live in.


I don't see how our Constitution applies to foreigners, let alone foreign criminals.

I guarantee you, if my plan were implemented, the illegals problem would vanish.
  


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