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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #10 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:07pm
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Jasmine dear, if indeed we as human beings are endowed by our Creator with
inalienable rights, then we are all as human beings endowed with those rights.
The idea that is/was America was founded on that bedrock principle.
You may well be the world's worst Christian, and you may well be a poster child
for ignorance and intolerance, but certainly even in a time when and a place
where a former WWF performer sits in the White House, even you must understand
that we cannot kill people for no reason other than your homicidal fetishes.
As bad as it is that you persist in posting this type of nonsense, it is even worse
that you insist that adults posting as members of an online discussion forum
take any of it seriously. It is so ridiculous that it is almost comically surreal.

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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #11 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:15pm
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
I don't see how our Constitution applies to foreigners, let alone foreign criminals.

I guarantee you, if my plan were implemented, the illegals problem would vanish.


well I'd refer you to USSC cases that have said that even illegals have rights here, try googling USSC rules illegals have rights, as for your plan, personally, I'd hate to live in a country that would allow such BS.
  
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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #12 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:20pm
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
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Jasmine dear, if indeed we as human beings are endowed by our Creator with
inalienable rights, then we are all as human beings endowed with those rights.
The idea that is/was America was founded on that bedrock principle.
You may well be the world's worst Christian, and you may well be a poster child
for ignorance and intolerance, but certainly even in a time when and a place
where a former WWF performer sits in the White House, even you must understand
that we cannot kill people for no reason other than your homicidal fetishes.
As bad as it is that you persist in posting this type of nonsense, it is even worse
that you insist that adults posting as members of an online discussion forum
take any of it seriously. It is so ridiculous that it is almost comically surreal.

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Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally?
Illegal entry (or "improper entry") to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences (deportation and bars from future entry).
Whether it’s by crossing the U.S. border with a "coyote" or buying a fake U.S. passport, a foreign national who enters the U.S. illegally can be both convicted of a crime and held responsible for a civil violation under the U.S. immigration laws. Illegal entry also carries consequences for anyone who might later attempt to apply for a green card or other immigration benefit.
The penalties and consequences get progressively more severe if a person enters illegally more than once, or enters illegally after an order of removal (deportation) or having been convicted of an aggravated felony.
What Is Illegal Entry?
The immigration law actually uses the term "improper entry," which has a broad meaning. It’s more than just slipping across the U.S. border at an unguarded point. Improper entry can include:
•      entering or attempting to enter the United States at any time or place other than one designated by U.S. immigration officers (in other words, away from a border inspection point or other port of entry)
•      eluding examination or inspection by U.S. immigration officers (people have tried everything from digging tunnels to hiding in the trunk of a friend’s car)
•      attempting to enter or obtain entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or willful concealment of a material fact (which might include, for example, lying on a visa application or buying a false green
Criminal Penalties
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.  For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both. (See 8 U.S.C. Section 1325, I.N.A. Section 275.)
But just in case that isn’t enough to deter illegal entrants, a separate section of the law adds penalties for reentry (or attempted reentry) in cases where the person  had been convicted of certain types of crimes and thus removed (deported) from the U.S.,  as follows:
(1) People removed for a conviction of three or more misdemeanors involving drugs, crimes against the person, or both, or a felony (other than an aggravated felony), shall be fined, imprisoned for up to ten years, or both.
(2) People removed for a conviction of an aggravated felony shall be fined, imprisoned for up to 20 years, or both.
(3) People who were excluded or removed from the United States for security reasons shall be fined, and imprisoned for up to ten years, which sentence shall not run concurrently with any other sentence.
(4) Nonviolent offenders who were removed from the United States before their prison sentence was up  shall be fined, imprisoned for up to ten years, or both.
What’s more, someone deported before a prison sentence was complete may be incarcerated for the remainder of the sentence of imprisonment, without any reduction for parole or supervised release.
(See 8 U.S.C. Section 1326, I.N.A. Section 276.)

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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #13 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:27pm
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Archie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally?
Illegal entry (or "improper entry") to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences (deportation and bars from future entry).
Whether it’s by crossing the U.S. border with a "coyote" or buying a fake U.S. passport, a foreign national who enters the U.S. illegally can be both convicted of a crime and held responsible for a civil violation under the U.S. immigration laws. Illegal entry also carries consequences for anyone who might later attempt to apply for a green card or other immigration benefit.
The penalties and consequences get progressively more severe if a person enters illegally more than once, or enters illegally after an order of removal (deportation) or having been convicted of an aggravated felony.
What Is Illegal Entry?
The immigration law actually uses the term "improper entry," which has a broad meaning. It’s more than just slipping across the U.S. border at an unguarded point. Improper entry can include:
•      entering or attempting to enter the United States at any time or place other than one designated by U.S. immigration officers (in other words, away from a border inspection point or other port of entry)
•      eluding examination or inspection by U.S. immigration officers (people have tried everything from digging tunnels to hiding in the trunk of a friend’s car)
•      attempting to enter or obtain entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or willful concealment of a material fact (which might include, for example, lying on a visa application or buying a false green
Criminal Penalties
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.  For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both. (See 8 U.S.C. Section 1325, I.N.A. Section 275.)
But just in case that isn’t enough to deter illegal entrants, a separate section of the law adds penalties for reentry (or attempted reentry) in cases where the person  had been convicted of certain types of crimes and thus removed (deported) from the U.S.,  as follows:
(1) People removed for a conviction of three or more misdemeanors involving drugs, crimes against the person, or both, or a felony (other than an aggravated felony), shall be fined, imprisoned for up to ten years, or both.
(2) People removed for a conviction of an aggravated felony shall be fined, imprisoned for up to 20 years, or both.
(3) People who were excluded or removed from the United States for security reasons shall be fined, and imprisoned for up to ten years, which sentence shall not run concurrently with any other sentence.
(4) Nonviolent offenders who were removed from the United States before their prison sentence was up  shall be fined, imprisoned for up to ten years, or both.
What’s more, someone deported before a prison sentence was complete may be incarcerated for the remainder of the sentence of imprisonment, without any reduction for parole or supervised release.
(See 8 U.S.C. Section 1326, I.N.A. Section 276.)

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First of all, numb nuts, if you are going to cut and paste something, credit or cite the source.
None of us believe that you are even remotely capable of composing the above post,
so quit pretending that you are. Secondly, an illegal border crossing is not
a capital offense. Neither is hiring someone who illegally crosses a border.
So not only is your post a plagiarism, but is also not relevant or germane.

In summation, you're an idiot.

Even Harry thinks you are.

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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #14 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:48pm
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
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First of all, numb nuts, if you are going to cut and paste something, credit or cite the source.
None of us believe that you are even remotely capable of composing the above post,
so quit pretending that you are. Secondly, an illegal border crossing is not
a capital offense. Neither is hiring someone who illegally crosses a border.
So not only is your post a plagiarism, but is also not relevant or germane.

In summation, you're an idiot.

Even Harry thinks you are.

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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #15 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:53pm
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
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Jasmine dear, if indeed we as human beings are endowed by our Creator with
inalienable rights, then we are all as human beings endowed with those rights.
The idea that is/was America was founded on that bedrock principle.
You may well be the world's worst Christian, and you may well be a poster child
for ignorance and intolerance, but certainly even in a time when and a place
where a former WWF performer sits in the White House, even you must understand
that we cannot kill people for no reason other than your homicidal fetishes.
As bad as it is that you persist in posting this type of nonsense, it is even worse
that you insist that adults posting as members of an online discussion forum
take any of it seriously. It is so ridiculous that it is almost comically surreal.

***



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Viva El Presidentè!!!or El Presidentę!!!


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Arbitrary abuse of people I am sure about. 


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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #16 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:56pm
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
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First of all, numb nuts, if you are going to cut and paste something, credit or cite the source.
None of us believe that you are even remotely capable of composing the above post,
so quit pretending that you are. Secondly, an illegal border crossing is not
a capital offense. Neither is hiring someone who illegally crosses a border.
So not only is your post a plagiarism, but is also not relevant or germane.

In summation, you're an idiot.

Even Harry thinks you are.

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Be fair.


Archie posts cut and shit all the time.

You can tell when he does, ‘cos it’s technically sound, not rambling family shite.



He’s not stabbed a Panther for a while, to be fair.
  

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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #17 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:27am
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Here again is my Five-Point Plan to combat illegal immigration on our southern border:

1. Remove any and all benefits to illegals currently in the U.S. No more allowing illegals in our schools. No more giving them any kind of housing or financial assistance. And no more giving them *ANY* kind of medical care, even in the case of life-threatening situations. They get absolutely nothing. THIS DOESN'T COST US ANY MONEY. IT SAVES US MONEY.

2. Any illegal found guilty of *ANY* crime is automatically put to death. No appeals. So our prisons will not have to bear the burden of these riff-raff. Our tax dollars will not be spent feeding, clothing and sheltering these people. THIS SAVES US MONEY.

3. Any company caught hiring illegals will be fined $100,000 per illegal. All monies raised from this will go into enforcement of this policy.

4. Armed patrols at our patrols. Illegal crossers will be shot on the spot. Admittedly, this will cost money. But maybe some of the funds raised from #3 can be allotted for this as well.

5. Eliminate the minimum wage. This will help alleviate the inevitable decline of illegal workers.

I guarantee you my plan would solve the problem very quickly. The basic premise is to express to illegals that they are not wanted here and will gain no benefit from being here.



We could use the billions by diverting the money from the failed rapid rail transit system proposed and initiated by CA governor Moonbeam Brown and past POTUS Obama. They've spent a load of money and projected costs have doubled while not even being close to being finished. The money could be spent on erecting a big, beautiful wall,at our southern border.
  
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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #18 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 2:32am
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
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Jasmine dear, if indeed we as human beings are endowed by our Creator with
inalienable rights, then we are all as human beings endowed with those rights.
The idea that is/was America was founded on that bedrock principle.
You may well be the world's worst Christian, and you may well be a poster child
for ignorance and intolerance, but certainly even in a time when and a place
where a former WWF performer sits in the White House, even you must understand
that we cannot kill people for no reason other than your homicidal fetishes.
As bad as it is that you persist in posting this type of nonsense, it is even worse
that you insist that adults posting as members of an online discussion forum
take any of it seriously. It is so ridiculous that it is almost comically surreal.

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Have you ever heard of capital punishment?

We kill criminals a lot, and rightfully so.
  


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Re: Instead of spending billions on a wall...
Reply #19 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 2:34am
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Jiminy Cricket wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:27am:
We could use the billions by diverting the money from the failed rapid rail transit system proposed and initiated by CA governor Moonbeam Brown and past POTUS Obama. They've spent a load of money and projected costs have doubled while not even being close to being finished. The money could be spent on erecting a big, beautiful wall,at our southern border.

I just don’t think a wall would be effective. My way, however, is guaranteed to be effective. You have to make these tacoheads understand that they are not wanted here.
  


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