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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #380 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 2:18pm
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Turkey will launch another Syria operation if area not cleared of Kurdish YPG

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey’s foreign minister said Ankara would launch a new military operation in northeast Syria if the area was not cleared of what he called terrorists, state-owned Anadolu agency reported on Monday.

Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu was quoted as saying that United States and Russia had not done what was required under agreements that halted a Turkish offensive against the Kurdish YPG militia in northeastern Syria last month.

The deals stipulated that the YPG would be removed from a swathe of land bordering Turkey in northeastern Syria...

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Yuge win for Russia (lulz).
  
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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #381 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 12:02pm
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Israel Strikes Dozens of Iranian, Syrian Targets Following Rocket Barrage

The Israeli Army said Wednesday it attacked dozens of targets in Syria belonging to Iran's Quds Force and Bashar Assad's army.

"The attack was carried out in response to the launching of rockets by an Iranian force from Syria's territory into Israel, intending to strike Israeli territory," read the IDF statement, referring to a barrage of rockets launched toward Israel's Golan on Tuesday...

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Russia says Israeli air strikes on Syria a wrong move

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said on Wednesday that Israeli air strikes on Syria were a wrong move, and Moscow had contacted its allies about the incident, Interfax reported.

Israel has said its aircraft struck dozens of Iranian and Syrian military targets in Syria on Wednesday in retaliation for rockets fired towards Israel a day earlier.

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #382 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:53pm
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From the guys who brought you Iraq 2003, supported regime in Libya in 2011 and called for regime change in Syria...

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Undoing Trump’s Syria Blunder

According to a report released on Tuesday by the Department of Defense inspector general, President Trump’s withdrawal from Syria has allowed ISIS to “reconstitute capabilities and resources within Syria and strengthen its ability to plan attacks abroad.”

By abandoning Kurdish and Arab fighters in Syria who led the fight to eject ISIS from the “capital” of its so-called caliphate, Mr. Trump appears to be following President Barack Obama’s pivot away from the greater Middle East, responding, as his predecessor did, to a desire among the American people to disengage from that region, with its “endless wars.”

But to paraphrase Trotsky’s aphorism about war, you may not be interested in the Middle East, but the Middle East is interested in you. Walking away from that region has a way of sucking America back in. American strategy needs to protect our critical interests but at sustainable costs. By opening the door for Turkey to capture northern Syria, Mr. Trump committed what retired Gen. Jack Keane called both a “betrayal” and a “strategic blunder"...

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #383 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 4:02am
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:04pm:
I don't understand why we have to be there. Aren't they in some kind of civil war? Let them all kill each other.

it has a lot to do with Russia NK and China.
  

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Reply #384 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 4:21am
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JohnnyB1OFdaFEW wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 4:02am:
it has a lot to do with Russia NK and China.


This is not necessarily directed at you, Johnny.

American isolationism played a large part in allowing fascism to rise in Europe. The popular view was not unlike an ostrich: if you can't see it, it can't hurt you. As a result the fascists in Germany, Italy, Japan, and their allies gained power and successfully invaded and took over huge areas. Our absence also allowed the Soviet Union to take the leading role in the European land war, resulting in splitting the continent in two for nearly 45 years. Not to mention the 30 plus million war dead.

Maybe some day those who blithely spout, "It doesn't directly affect me, so I don't care" will wake up, grow up, and smell the covfefe and realize we all live on the same globe and major events on one side will eventually affect those on the other side.

Otherwise you're all just short sighted mole people.

  

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #385 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 9:06am
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Tiberius wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 4:21am:
This is not necessarily directed at you, Johnny.

American isolationism played a large part in allowing fascism to rise in Europe. The popular view was not unlike an ostrich: if you can't see it, it can't hurt you. As a result the fascists in Germany, Italy, Japan, and their allies gained power and successfully invaded and took over huge areas. Our absence also allowed the Soviet Union to take the leading role in the European land war, resulting in splitting the continent in two for nearly 45 years. Not to mention the 30 plus million war dead.

Maybe some day those who blithely spout, "It doesn't directly affect me, so I don't care" will wake up, grow up, and smell the covfefe and realize we all live on the same globe and major events on one side will eventually affect those on the other side.

Otherwise you're all just short sighted mole people.



Isolationism shouldn't be falsely blamed for the spread of fascism. The countries that fell that way did so without our help and entirely on their own. If you're gonna blame someone, blame the Allies for the revenge enacted upon the Central powers via the Treaty of Versailles. They should have listened to Wilson instead of extracting harsh concessions that became the source of fascism's rise.
  

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #386 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 10:52am
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Remember that U.S. base everyone made big deal of the Russians taking over...

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Russia faces dilemmas in northeastern Syria

...In northeastern Syria, it may be that Russia can only reliably count on the military base in Qamishli. This is possible thanks to the city’s special status, as much of Qamishli and the airport have been under the uninterrupted control of pro-regime forces throughout the civil war. Therefore, Qamishli is not covered either by US-Turkish or Russian-Turkish agreements on the Syrian-Turkish border and will not see joint Russian-Turkish patrolling. As for the Russian attack helicopters on the ground there, their deployment did not require any approval from other stakeholders.

However, rumors about Qamishli being a full-fledged, long-term air base are baseless. The move is ill-advised until Russia’s air forces have the opportunity to freely operate in what are now US-patrolled skies over northeastern Syria. For the moment, the deployment of Russian military infrastructure in the city is instrumental for conducting joint operations with Turkey aimed at patrolling the border strip. Other facilities along the border, including roadblocks established by the regime, are temporary and cannot assist the Russian military police in their efforts to control border territories.

Certain difficulties involving the use of highways to supply both Russian patrols stationed a ways from Qamishli and Syrian troop checkpoints aggravate the situation. In particular, the United States continues its military convoys in the border zone, for example, around al-Malikiyah, where Syrian border guards were to be deployed. US convoys were also seen on the M4 highway, Syria’s main artery used for dispatching forces and cargo for the Russian military police and regime forces operating along the border.

While the US military has vacated the air base located along the motorway in Sarrin, it is still premature — given the situation on the ground — to claim that Syrian troops and Russian security forces can see themselves in the driver's seat in the country’s northeast and even in the 30-kilometer zone from which the Sochi memorandum obliges the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) to withdraw. Until an agreement is reached and President Bashar al-Assad’s civil and military administration takes over full control over the 30-kilometer border security zone, with Damascus assuming complete control of the M4 highway, the Russian and Syrian government troops will have little confidence regarding their presence in the area and the US forces will remain well-placed to monitor the movements of government forces and traffic flows.

Moreover, the threat is still looming that we may see new hot spots and direct clashes between the Turkish-backed National Army and Assad’s army, as is already the case around Tell Tamr. There has been bitter fighting over some disputed areas to the north of the town. Assad’s forces and SDF units joined hands against the National Army forces in the area, which could put Turkish artillery and aviation and the Syrian government forces in jeopardy. The Turkish air forces were reported to have attacked Kurds there. The positions of the Turkish troops and the National Army look relatively stable in this area as they bank on Turkey's proximity. They can quickly get the necessary supplies and artillery support without the need to deploy artillery batteries in Syria...

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #387 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 11:21am
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U.S. Resumes Operations Against ISIS in Northern Syria

MANAMA, Bahrain — United States troops have resumed large-scale counterterrorism missions against the Islamic State in northern Syria, military officials say, nearly two months after President Trump’s abrupt order to withdraw American troops opened the way for a bloody Turkish cross-border offensive...

On Friday, American soldiers and hundreds of Syrian Kurdish fighters — the same local allies the Trump administration abandoned to fend for themselves against the Turkish advance last month — reunited to conduct what the Pentagon said was a large-scale mission to kill and capture ISIS fighters in Deir al-Zour province, about 120 miles south of the Turkish border...

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BTW, No ‘End Date’ for U.S. Troops in Syria

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #388 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 11:59am
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Turkey holds up NATO military plans over Syria dispute

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Turkey is refusing to back a NATO defense plan for the Baltics and Poland until the alliance offers Ankara more political support for its fight against Kurdish YPG militia in northern Syria, four senior alliance sources said.

Ankara has told its NATO envoy not to sign off on the plan and is taking a tough line in meetings and in private conversations, demanding the alliance recognize the YPG as terrorists in the formal wording, the sources said...

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Re: Tillerson: US Troops Will Stay in Syria
Reply #389 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:59pm
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What a clustercrappity smack.

All the conflict over "leaving" Syria was for nothing. We're back mothercrappity smackers!

I suspect pinning the inevitable surge in ISIS (or ISIS like groups) on Trump's decision to "leave" (if that's what it was supposed to be) was too much exposure to criticism. He IS a politician!
  

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