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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #30 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:16pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:13pm:
If punishment is not commiserate there is nothing to distinguish justice from crime.

In my mind, that's weak.

The problem is you have lowered the bar so low in what constitutes scum that no one would deserve to live, not even yourself!

Well, we obviously disagree. As for what constitutes “scum,” I define it as people who willingly break the law and do damage to others. I do none of that, so clearly I do not fall in that category.

Do you even believe in capital punishment at all?
  


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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #31 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm
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Jasmine wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Well, we obviously disagree. As for what constitutes “scum,” I define it as people who willingly break the law and do damage to others. I do none of that, so clearly I do not fall in that category.


Okay but by that definition we could see ourselves justifying executing people for breaking traffic codes or selling "loosies."

You most definitely commit crimes everyday. You just don't know it.

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Do you even believe in capital punishment at all?

I could imagine instances where I would support it.
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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #32 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:26pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
You most definitely commit crimes everyday. You just know it.

Not willingly. And certainly not every day.

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I could imagine instances where I would support it.

So you and I simply differ in how much we support it.
  


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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #33 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:49pm
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Jasmine wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:26pm:
Not willingly. And certainly not every day.


Not willingly. I'll grant that.

And that is part of the problem.

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In his new book, the Boston-based civil liberties advocate and occasional Reason contributor Harvey Silverglate estimates that in 2009, the average American commits about three federal felonies per day. And yet, we aren’t a nation of degenerates. On the contrary, most social indicators have been moving in a positive direction for a generation. Silverglate argues we're committing these crimes unwittingly. The federal criminal code has become so vast and open to interpretation, Silverglate argues, that a U.S. Attorney can find a way to charge just about anyone with violating federal law. In fact, it's nearly impossible for some business owners to comply with one federal regulation without violating another one. We're no longer governed by laws, we're governed by the whims of lawyers.


http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/19/were-all-felons-now

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So you and I simply differ in how much we support it.

You could say that.
  

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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #34 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:55pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:49pm:
Not willingly. I'll grant that.

And that is part of the problem.


http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/19/were-all-felons-now

You could say that.

When someone breaks into your home and steals your jewelry, there’s nothing unwittingly about that.

When someone throws a brick throw a store window and defaces the property, there is nothing unwittingly about that.

When someone rapes a woman, he didn’t do it accidentally.
  


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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #35 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:16pm
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Jasmine wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 8:55pm:
When someone breaks into your home and steals your jewelry, there’s nothing unwittingly about that.

When someone throws a brick throw a store window and defaces the property, there is nothing unwittingly about that.

When someone rapes a woman, he didn’t do it accidentally.

Surely you don't expect me to disagree?
  

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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #36 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:23pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
Are you trying to distract from the thread subject with such a dumbass response?



Not anymore then your dumbass response to posts that you make.  POT.
  

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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #37 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 6:17pm:
I don't understand what you are asking.

Anyone who puts others at risk for injury should carry liability insurance.

Lawyers and doctors should. So should plumbers and electricians. And so should the police.




That should be part of their pay, just like Lawyers, Doctors, Plumbers and electricians.  WHY do you think the pay is soooooooo high.
  

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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #38 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:29pm
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walkstall wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
That should be part of their pay, just like Lawyers, Doctors, Plumbers and electricians.  WHY do you think the pay is soooooooo high. 

I'm not sure I follow.

How is it "part of their pay?"
  

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Re: New policy change in Baltimore could make police officers financially responsible
Reply #39 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 11:05pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
I'm not sure I follow.

How is it "part of their pay?"



Come on TL your not that dumb.   Grin
  

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