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Reply #30 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 2:56pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
You should take a look in the mirror.

MAYBE your approach does not relay what you intended.  You asked me a question and I stated I had answered it earlier, that I am no fan of proxy wars and I have stated in the past I no longer see a need to be in Syria. 
  


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Reply #31 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:02pm
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So.... What's going to happen if US troops are killed by Russians?

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Reply #32 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:04pm
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I am curious as to WHY Russia thought this was a good move.  I am curious as to how big of a force was in the immediate area.  Curious as to what our troops knew regarding the seriousness of the situation.  Understanding that the ROEs under Obama have been removed by this administration that has allowed us to defend ourselves effectively. 

  Some of my questions will never be answered because those involved will not be allowed to discuss this for obvious reasons.  Very curious as to how Putin explains the largest loss of life in Syria at the hands of US troops to his citizens.  Long term and short term consequences and finally, what conditions have we set that must be met for us to pull out. 

  Proxy wars to to lead to bigger and bigger conflicts and I have no desire to see this.  Why, because Russia will employ all their assests without regard for human life.  They do not care about nuclear fallout in someone elses land.
  


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Reply #33 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:05pm
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Seawolf wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
You asked me a question and I stated I had answered it earlier, that I am no fan of proxy wars and I have stated in the past I no longer see a need to be in Syria. 

Thank you, I hadn't seen that comment before (may have just overlooked it).

What are the other questions/concerns you had about this situation? I am legitimately interested in hearing what they are. EDIT: Looks like this is addressed in your post above.
  
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Reply #34 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:05pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:02pm:
So.... What's going to happen if US troops are killed by Russians?

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Great question.  I think THEN it would have been non-stop coverage by our media if the results were reversed.  I would rather we get out of Syria then to see this escallate.
  


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Reply #35 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:16pm
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Seawolf wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:05pm:
Great question.  I think THEN it would have been non-stop coverage by our media if the results were reversed.  I would rather we get out of Syria then to see this escallate.


I actually agree with you CC.

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Reply #36 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:16pm
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Queshank wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
I edited above to include links.  They all seem to say they were private contractors.

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thanks,  I saw them after I had posted my response.

I guess what immediately comes to mind, is what if our military's contractors had been killed by russian forces?  Are we to believe that there is no command of control between Russian military contractors and the russian military who are operating in the same area?
  

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Reply #37 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:18pm
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First, thanks for posting this.

Seawolf wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
I am curious as to how big of a force was in the immediate area.  Curious as to what our troops knew regarding the seriousness of the situation.

Serious question: why would you be curious about these two things? I'm presuming it's related to rules of engagement, but would like to understand.

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Long term and short term consequences and finally, what conditions have we set that must be met for us to pull out.

Hopefully, Mattis prevails over Tillerson here. He has expressed a desire for a much more limited engagement here focused on ISIS and a draw down in US troop levels. 
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:23pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
First, thanks for posting this.

Serious question: why would you be curious about these two things? I'm presuming it's related to rules of engagement, but would like to understand.

Hopefully, Mattis prevails over Tillerson here. He has expressed a desire for a much more limited engagement here focused on ISIS and a draw down in US troop levels. 

I do too, the question is what is this admin’s end game for Syria.  Isis has been defeated so what is left that is so important to risk an escallation with Russia?
  


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Reply #39 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:38pm
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Demos, I am thrilled our troops came out victorious in a resounding way, I am baffled how Russia so seriously underestimated our forces and I worry about where they go from here.  Both of us are going to analyze this inside and out in every possible light.  There will be lessons learned on both sides and I am happy that we were allowed to respond in a manner that allowed us to win.  That took a big set of brass balls to do what we did, now let's get out before this thing spirals completely out of control.  I want the full light of the media on this incident to pressure our leaders into reassessing our end goal and commit to getting our troops out of there.
  


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