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Democrats lack plan, concessions for deal to protect Dreamers as immigration debate b
Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:45pm
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Democrats lack plan, concessions for deal to protect Dreamers as immigration debate begins

Democrats enter this week’s immigration debate with the goal of protecting illegal immigrant Dreamers but with little strategy for how to get there, saying they will take their chances when the fight plays out on the floor of the Senate.

Party leaders don’t have a Democratic plan in hand, nor do they have a sense for what concessions they are willing to make to reach a deal with President Trump, beyond some sort of funding for his border wall.

Republicans, meanwhile, are struggling for unanimity within their own ranks with Mr. Trump’s four-point framework unable to win over all 51 members of his party in the Senate.
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Who's going to get the most blame when there is no deal for DACA and the law begins to be enforced!   The President doesn't have the legal authority to extend this deferred action for childhood arrivals, nor does he have the right to tell ICE which illegals they can and which illegals they can not deport.

President Trump made Congress a deal they can't refuse!
  

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Re: Democrats lack plan, concessions for deal to protect Dreamers as immigration debate b
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Trump can undo what he did when he nuked DACA 6 months into the future.  He can extend his own deadline.  Also, it is unlikely that his deadline will survive court challenges.

Trump needs DACA more than the democrats do.  I wonder if they'll ever start to realize that.
  

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Re: Democrats lack plan, concessions for deal to protect Dreamers as immigration debate b
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forgotten centrist wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
Trump can undo what he did when he nuked DACA 6 months into the future.  He can extend his own deadline.  Also, it is unlikely that his deadline will survive court challenges.

Trump needs DACA more than the democrats do.  I wonder if they'll ever start to realize that.


DACA was an unconstitutional executive order even by Obama's definition. Its sister executive order, DAPA, went down in flames once it hit the courts. DACA stands no better chance in court than DAPA did.
  

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Re: Democrats lack plan, concessions for deal to protect Dreamers as immigration debate b
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forgotten centrist wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
Trump can undo what he did when he nuked DACA 6 months into the future.  He can extend his own deadline.  Also, it is unlikely that his deadline will survive court challenges.

Trump needs DACA more than the democrats do.  I wonder if they'll ever start to realize that.

"President Donald Trump has caught a lot of heat for rescinding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program with a six-month wind-down. Few people seem aware that he's ending an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens that President Barack Obama lacked the constitutional and legal authority to implement.

How do we know? Because even Obama admitted it – repeatedly.

Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works."

Yet in 2012, he did it anyway. He put DACA in place to provide pseudo-legal status to illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors, including as teenagers. He promised them that they wouldn't be deported and provided them with work authorizations and access to Social Security and other government benefits.

And he did this despite the fact that the immigration laws passed by Congress do not give the president the ability to do this. Indeed, Congress specifically rejected bills to provide such benefits.

As Attorney General Jeff Sessions pointed out this week, DACA "contributed to a surge of unaccompanied minors on the southern border that yielded terrible humanitarian consequences." Since most DACA beneficiaries are now adults, "it also denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing those same jobs to go to illegal aliens," Sessions said.

The unconstitutionality of Obama's actions were confirmed when Obama tried to implement a second, similar program in 2014 called the Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents program, or DAPA. Like DACA, DAPA provided an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens who came to the U.S. as adults and gave them work authorizations and access to government benefits.

The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a nationwide injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand. As the Fifth Circuit said, the fact that the president declined to enforce the law and remove illegal aliens "does not transform presence deemed unlawful by Congress into lawful presence and confer eligibility for otherwise unavailable benefits based on that change."

Under our Constitution, Congress has plenary authority over immigration. The president only has the authority delegated to him by Congress – and Congress has never given the president the power to provide a pseudo-amnesty and government benefits to illegal aliens.

The DACA program suffers from exactly the same constitutional infirmities as DAPA. A number of states have threatened to sue the administration to stop the DACA program. In the face of that threat, Trump really had no choice. General Sessions' legal conclusion was that DACA "is vulnerable to the same legal and constitutional challenges that the courts recognized with respect to the DAPA program."

The place to have the debate about what to do about illegal aliens who were minors when they came to this country is in the halls of Congress"

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/daca-unconstitutional-obama-admi...

Do you really want to allow President Trump to have the powers of " a King"  ?
  

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