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trump's infrastructure plan
Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:08pm
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(the other thread on this topic appears to be malfunctioning, so I'm starting a new one.)

Trump's infrastructure proposal commits $200b for infrastructure, the bulk of it in the form of matching funds that up-end the more-typical arrangement of federal funds normally making up the bulk of big infrastructure deals.

But he did it by cutting about the same amount OUT of federal infrastructure spending:

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$199 billion over 10 years for a new infrastructure program meant to generate $1 trillion through private partnership spending; this is offset by a 28.6 percent cut to transportation spending from 2017 to 2023, cuts which over the same 10-year period total $178 billion. Combined with cuts to water and other infrastructure programs, it’s not clear the budget actually spends more on infrastructure.


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/16996832/trump-budget-2019-rel...

So he's not actually doing anything to improve infrastructure.
  

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Re: trump's infrastructure plan
Reply #1 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:31pm
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He's tweeting about it, though. Doesn't that count?
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:44pm
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They are talking about raising the Federal gasoline tax.  It is currently 18.4 cents per gallon and hasn't been raised in 25 years.  With more and more petroleum being pumped and fuel prices coming down, it is a good way to "pay as you go" and not simply borrow money.
  

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Re: trump's infrastructure plan
Reply #3 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:47pm
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Ugh. :/

I had some genuine hope that Trump would use his "unprecedented" abilities to get a big infrastructure plan pushed through and a scale down in our overseas military adventures. Both of which he campaigned on. So, the infrastructure plan is an accounting gimmick and we're now in Syria killing Russian mercenaries after surging in Afghanistan?

Or am I just too stupid to see this was what he planned all along?  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 8:53pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
(the other thread on this topic appears to be malfunctioning, so I'm starting a new one.)

Trump's infrastructure proposal commits $200b for infrastructure, the bulk of it in the form of matching funds that up-end the more-typical arrangement of federal funds normally making up the bulk of big infrastructure deals.

But he did it by cutting about the same amount OUT of federal infrastructure spending:


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/16996832/trump-budget-2019-rel...

So he's not actually doing anything to improve infrastructure.


Except for that Trillion dollars in private spending that it will draw in, right?
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:38am
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Poor Wallys Almanac wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
They are talking about raising the Federal gasoline tax.  It is currently 18.4 cents per gallon and hasn't been raised in 25 years.  With more and more petroleum being pumped and fuel prices coming down, and fuel prices coming down, and not simply borrow money.


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]They are talking about raising the Federal gasoline tax. 


Sounds to me Wally you don't have a tax you don't like

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and fuel prices coming down,


No, they are not really coming down. you have just gotten use to it Wink Roll Eyes

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it is a good way to "pay as you go"


What has been going on with the revenue with all the Fed and state Gas tax we have already been paying for years?


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and not simply borrow money


So the 200 Billion Fed infrastructure funds are not coming from borrowed money? Roll Eyes
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Re: trump's infrastructure plan
Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:52am
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
Except for that Trillion dollars in private spending that it will draw in, right?




No, except the part of the 1 TRILLION state and local taxes paying for it?
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The administration's plan is centered on using $200 billion in federal money to leverage more than $1 trillion in local and state tax dollars to fix America's infrastructure, such as roads, highways, ports and airports. The administration released a 55-page "legislative outline" for lawmakers who will write the legislation.




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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
Except for that Trillion dollars in private spending that it will draw in, right?


It's not drawing in private spending, it's drawing in public spending further down the food chain.

It's an accounting trick, not an infrastructure policy.  The tax bill was "policy", because he (and congressional republicans) made a clear stand.  They value lower taxes, even in the face of higher debt.  They are willing to take the heat, make the sacrifices at the voting booth, etc.

With this, they are pretending to stand for infrastructure, but they aren't actually doing anything to support infrastructure.  There's no actual policy here.  Unless "having no policy" is a policy.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:20pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
It's not drawing in private spending, it's drawing in public spending further down the food chain.


My apologies, I read the text you quoted as referring to private spending.

Here is the part I was referring to:

"$199 billion over 10 years for a new infrastructure program meant to generate $1 trillion through private partnership spending"

Can you provide clarification as to the meaning of that?
  
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