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Do you Support Trade War Trump?
Mar 2nd, 2018 at 7:58am
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I am curious about conservatives' thoughts on Trump's liberal economic policy. Does anyone here think the tariffs on steel are a good idea?

(Personally, I think this is the biggest mistake of Trump's presidency.)

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The US steel industry produced 90 million tons of steel last year (up 5%) and had 72.5% of the US market.

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But we need protectionist tariffs that will impact workers in industries that use steel and that will raise prices for consumers.
  
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Re: Do you Support Trade War Trump?
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Possibly Logical wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 7:58am:
I am curious about conservatives' thoughts on Trump's liberal economic policy. Does anyone here think the tariffs on steel are a good idea?

(Personally, I think this is the biggest mistake of Trump's presidency.)

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I don't mind it if it it is part of a coherent, long term trade and business policy.

We are already engaged in multiple trade wars. First, the working classes are
involved in an eternal trade war with those who would steal from and exploit them.
If these tariffs bring them higher wages and job stability, and if steel making is
brought back to America where there are/were stricter environmental standards,
then I am all for the tariffs, again as part of a long term business/trade policy.

Second, we are involved in a trade war where China (and South Korea)
continue to dump their excess sub-standard steel on the American market.
I don't want to rebuild America's infrastructure using sub-standard steel,
and I don't want to put Americans out of work because China is cheating
and dumping. We gave up whatever leverage the TPP would have gained us
by not ratifying that deal (which in the big picture was probably a good thing).
But now we are faced with a Chinese steel industry that produces bad steel
with little or no concern for the environment, and then dumps it on the US
while putting Americans out of work. Maybe a tariff will bring them around.

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Re: Do you Support Trade War Trump?
Reply #6 - Mar 2nd, 2018 at 11:05am
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 10:57am:
Second, we are involved in a trade war where China (and South Korea) continue to dump their excess sub-standard steel on the American market.

These countries aren't even the largest share of imported steel into the US.

"The top supplier to the U.S. in 2017 was Canada, followed by Brazil, South Korea, Mexico and Russia. Other notables include Turkey, Japan and Taiwan. China is just outside the list at No. 11 despite producing about half of the world’s steel..." (Source)



And these are broad tariffs, so they're not going to just hit just China or S Korea (Source).
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Re: Do you Support Trade War Trump?
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Possibly Logical wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 7:58am:
I am curious about conservatives' thoughts on Trump's liberal economic policy. Does anyone here think the tariffs on steel are a good idea?

(Personally, I think this is the biggest mistake of Trump's presidency.)

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Many of our competitors have imposed their own tariffs on American imports to their countries.  China only wants to talk and talk and talk and never address our unfair trade deficit and their breaking the illegally rules of our trade agreements.  Up until now, China has figure that the United States is a paper tiger and will make a lot of noise about their illegal activities, but never hold their feet to the fire.  This has worked for years through many former Presidents.

Now, just like China's puppet, North Korea.  They are finding this President is going to take them to task and it's no longer the business (or foreign policy) they have gotten used to.

In the long run, this will prove to be something we should have done a very long time ago.

As far as a trade war goes, China and other nations have been engaging in a trade war with the US for years and we have allowed it  It's just like Al Qaeda and 9/11; they were at war with us and we didn't want to go to war with them!  Others will always exploit weakness wherever they see an advantage!
  

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Re: Do you Support Trade War Trump?
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Hayzeus Bama Beau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 10:43am:
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Re: Do you Support Trade War Trump?
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Semi-Omnipotent wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 11:22am:
Actually the 'Delete' feature was deleted as the result of Abe using a glitch in YaBB that would drive a thread to the last page if you posted and then deleted that post..

Stay on topic.

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