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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #10 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:13pm
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crepe05 wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 5:32am:
Where did you get your numbers?  Percentages and statistics can be manipulated.


Phillip 2.0 wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:52am:
Did the sources for all these claims get purged from Queshank’s post or something?


Are you guys doubting that Donald Trump had low approval ratings when he was elected and that he has low approval ratings across the country now?

Really?

I mean if you guys want I can share the state by state approval ratings map you can get from simply doing a "donald trump approval by state" search.

And I can point out which states he has 40%+ (as I said, NOT Texas) ... and tell you how many electoral votes each of those states have.

But honestly, if you can't do that and aren't interested enough to do that for yourself you deserve to lose the election anyway.  I've got my Australia backup plan.  I'm fine.

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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #11 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:15pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:12am:
Yeah in 2006 no one could imagine there would be a black president.  In 2014, no one could imagine a reality game show host would be president.  So i would suggest, just don't imagine.


Not no one Wadsworth.  Just you apparently.

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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #12 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:20pm
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:13pm:
Meh, I'm not too worried.

Just a few states that were quite close last time and Trump loses in 2020. As long as we don't run Hillary, I think Trump's a one-term wonder.


And what are the Democrats doing to reach out to those few states besides encouraging their children to change their gender and calling them all stupid racists?

I've gone into this before but I'll do it again here in case you've missed it Mojo.

Hillary was not a bad candidate.  She was just a bad candidate to go against Trump.  Any other Republican from Kasich to Rubio ... she's got a good shot of beating.  Because none of them would have wrapped her in a shitty bear hug and dragged her into the mud for a wrestling match.  Hillary was a formidable politician in the establishment sense.  But like any politician used to "the way it's supposed to be" she had no idea how to deal with Trump.  And yet she almost beat him.

And the inverse is this ... Trump would have beat any other Democratic candidate as well.  Especially Bernie Sanders.  Bernie Bros can sit comfortably on their laurels with Bernie never having gone through the grind machine Hillary went through and compare apples to oranges.  But that's meaningless.  Get Bernie in one of Trump's Shithugs and see how he fares.  Let's not forget Hillary outmaneuvered Bernie in every way.

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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #13 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:24pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
The one thing Trump has working against him is the economic cycle. We're in the late stages. And two years is a long time.

And the banks are going to continue to raise interest rates. Trump's deficits will push them up faster and his tariffs will take a bite out of economic growth.

We're primed for economic malaise.

And that's never good for the incumbent.


Sure.  And there's always Russia too!

His tariffs affect less than 2% of the economy.  You're wildly exaggerating the impact they'll have on overall economic growth in the face of the other variables in play.  I haven't been participating in the tariffs threads but I have been reading em all curious for input.  And I think much too much is being made of these tariffs that are in large part simply a threat and a bluff to get Canada to blink and toe the line on NAFTA renegotiations.

There's always what comes out of North Korea as well.  And let's not forget the people banking on Trump crappity smacking that up are the same people who were convinced Trump's moves weren't going to lead to this but rather to full scale thermo nuclear war.

There's a sizable portion of the American population and especially the intelligentsia that are having a hard time seeing clearly through their anger and their bias.  That concerns me.

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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #14 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm
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Queshank wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:24pm:
Sure.  And there's always Russia too!

His tariffs affect less than 2% of the economy.  You're wildly exaggerating the impact they'll have on overall economic growth in the face of the other variables in play.  I haven't been participating in the tariffs threads but I have been reading em all curious for input.  And I think much too much is being made of these tariffs that are in large part simply a threat and a bluff to get Canada to blink and toe the line on NAFTA renegotiations.


Just 2%?

Well that is significant, no?

But I don't think its that simple. For we are going to see retaliatory tariffs. That is going to impact exporters and it is going to drive up cost for other industries.

I would argue that this tariff thing is a much bigger deal than we are even leading on.

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There's always what comes out of North Korea as well.  And let's not forget the people banking on Trump crappity smacking that up are the same people who were convinced Trump's moves weren't going to lead to this but rather to full scale thermo nuclear war.

There's a sizable portion of the American population and especially the intelligentsia that are having a hard time seeing clearly through their anger and their bias.  That concerns me.

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Reply #15 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm
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Queshank wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Not no one Wadsworth.  Just you apparently.

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Sure Roll Eyes
  

Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, Trump won’t go to his funeral very, very soon.


TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
I'll try but it might be beyond my ability. Insulting is "like 90% of what I do here."
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Re: Trump had 34% approval rating the week before he won the presidency.
Reply #16 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm
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Luther wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:18am:
The way you word this is like a fighter in the ring with no opponent or fighting himself? Roll Eyes

A democrat doesn't need Texas in order to win Roll Eyes


No.  A Democrat doesn't need Texas to win.  But chock Texas in there with the rest of those states and now we're at 310 electoral votes for Trump.  You completely missed the point on that one Luther.

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You also seem to forget that Hillary's numbers were about the same as Trumps during the election?


Not at the start.  You seem to forget that for 20 years prior to the 2016 election Hillary Clinton was voted most admired woman in America.  20 years straight.  Her approval rating when she stepped down as Sec of State was in the mid to high 60s. 

Then she got into a presidential campaign with Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.

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You also forget that Trump only won Florida, Wis, Penn and Mich by small town margins


And what have the Democrats been doing to court those voters besides call them stupid racists? 

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Reply #17 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:31pm
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Queshank wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
No.  A Democrat doesn't need Texas to win.  But chock Texas in there with the rest of those states and now we're at 310 electoral votes for Trump.  You completely missed the point on that one Luther.


Not at the start.  You seem to forget that for 20 years prior to the 2016 election Hillary Clinton was voted most admired woman in America.  20 years straight.  Her approval rating when she stepped down as Sec of State was in the mid to high 60s. 

Then she got into a presidential campaign with Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.


And what have the Democrats been doing to court those voters besides call them stupid racists? 

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Jasmine wrote on May 6th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Yes, I heard about this. Just goes to show McLame’s true loyalties. Hopefully, Trump won’t go to his funeral very, very soon.


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I'll try but it might be beyond my ability. Insulting is "like 90% of what I do here."
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Reply #18 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:38pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Just 2%?

Well that is significant, no?

But I don't think its that simple. For we are going to see retaliatory tariffs. That is going to impact exporters and it is going to drive up cost for other industries.



Many of the people making these predictions are the same people who predicted thermonuclear war with North Korea. 

I'm comfortable with waiting to see. 

The AFLCIO is on board the Trump train due to these tariffs. So are the United Steel Workers.  Blue collar Democrats in states like Pennsylvania. 

The perception of reality is just as important as reality TL.  Especially where the economy is concerned.

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Reply #19 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:39pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
It appears that you are contradicting what you said in your OP


I don't see it.  Could you point out how?

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