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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #30 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:06pm
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petep wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:46pm:
I watched her news conference...

The whole thing is just so odd...she clearly indicated on multiple occasions she was native American...

who would do that? I know my heritage because my great grandparents came from various countries, as documented on their birth certificates....

And if I wasn't sure, I certainly would not guess "native American" - especially if I did not look at all native American.


A hundred or more years ago, did all Native Americans have birth certificates?

Your own situation is not analogous to Warren's.

If people with African American ancestry can pass as white (as many did out of necessity), why couldn't someone with Native American ancestry appear to be white?

And again, a DNA may or may not prove or disprove Warren's family. But there is ZERO evidence she ever advanced or profited from relating her family lore.

Shoot, I have similar family lore, and value it, but no proof other than an old family photo that shows a woman with long dark hair.  In many such cases, when proof could have been obtained, it wasn't, because Indian blood was a social stigma for many whites. But if anyone asked, I'd say, "Yes, there is family lore that there is a slight amount of Indian blood (great great great grandmother) in me." And I don't give a f*ck if you believe me or not.


  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #31 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:12pm
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
A hundred or more years ago, did all Native Americans have birth certificates?

Your own situation is not analogous to Warren's.

If people with African American ancestry can pass as white (as many did out of necessity), why couldn't someone with Native American ancestry appear to be white?

And again, a DNA may or may not prove or disprove Warren's family. But there is ZERO evidence she ever advanced or profited from relating her family lore.

Shoot, I have similar family lore, and value it, but no proof other than an old family photo that shows a woman with long dark hair.  In many such cases, when proof could have been obtained, it wasn't, because Indian blood was a social stigma for many whites. But if anyone asked, I'd say, "Yes, there is family lore that there is a slight amount of Indian blood (great great great grandmother) in me." And I don't give a f*ck if you believe me or not.





sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it probably is a duck...

you can rationalize this all day long...we've all completed those forms asking our race...she has no reason to believe with any degree that she is native American, other than stating when she was a child he dad said it at the dinner table...

she went out of her way to write in or indicate native American...as an adult...

whether she profited or not, she still did it...and that is just odd.

  
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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #32 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:06pm
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:31pm:
You must be some kind of genius, to shift Warren from the Senate to the House so easily.

Not that it wouldn't be considered a downgrade.

Yeah, you're right she is a senator, I was using congress person in a generic way.  The congress consists of ? I'm sure even a obnoxious prick like you can come up with an answer, given enough time to Google it.
  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #33 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:48pm
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petep wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:12pm:
sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it probably is a duck...

you can rationalize this all day long...we've all completed those forms asking our race...she has no reason to believe with any degree that she is native American, other than stating when she was a child he dad said it at the dinner table...

she went out of her way to write in or indicate native American...as an adult...

whether she profited or not, she still did it...and that is just odd.



You appear to have confused me with somebody who gives a sh*t.
  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #34 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:55pm
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
You appear to have confused me with somebody who gives a sh*t.

Wow, you sure are a crouch today, Molasses. Take a chill pill and calm down.
  


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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #35 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:00pm
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
There is no evidence that she profited off relating her family lore.

Really, this has been looked into, and  you are paroting fake news.

Politifact says:


- she got a job at Harvard and made hundreds of thousands of dollars - then used that to run for Senate
- call that fraud?
  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #36 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:14pm
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admin wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:00pm:
- she got a job at Harvard and made hundreds of thousands of dollars - then used that to run for Senate
- call that fraud?


She revealed her family lore AFTER she got the job at Harvard.

Show where she campaigned as someone with Native American ancestry.

  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #37 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:29pm
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/01/19/elizabeth-warren-native-ameri...

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But perhaps ironically, it is Trump who may be doing the most to push Native Americans into Warren’s camp. Every time the president labels Warren as “Pocahontas,” she reacts swiftly, calling out the president for using what she terms a racial slur.

“She stands up to the racial slap,” said Smith, the former Cherokee Nation chief. “Anyone who stands up for Indian Country,” he said, “it endears her to me.”
  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #38 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:00pm
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robth wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
© J. Scott Applewhite/AP Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). 
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is rejecting a Massachusetts newspaper’s suggestion that she take a DNA test to prove her Native American heritage.

“I know who I am and never used it for anything,” Warren said Sunday in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “Never got any benefit from it anywhere.”

The senator, a potential 2020 Democratic presidential contender, has faced public questions over her citation of family stories to claim Cherokee and Delaware Indian heritage since her first bid for office in 2012. President Trump has turned her claim into a racially tinged attack line, frequently referring to her as “Pocahontas” since May 2016, including at a rally Saturday night in western Pennsylvania. Last week, the Berkshire Eagle, a newspaper published in Pittsfield, Mass., called the issue an “Achilles’ heel” for Warren and urged her to “take the spit test” to put it to rest.


I guess it's more convenient to loudly proclaim your native American heritage than it is to prove it.

Damn if she does and damn if she doesn't.  You all cried when Obama did not reveal his BC, then when he did, you said it was fake.   Please.....You people will NEVER be satisfied.
  

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Re: Why did Warren refuse DNA test?
Reply #39 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:44pm
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Liz spit in the cup & be done with it.


  
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