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admin wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
- why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - doesnt asking imply it matters? - why should it matter? - isnt that racist?



If it’s done properly it’s a monitoring thing.


Applications are aggregated; distinct groups counted. Then, separately, successfully-appointed people are counted by the same race/gender/whatever criteria.


This gives a measurable view on simple numbers of black/gay/white/educated/stupid applicants versus gay/Muslim/crippled/Christian appointees.


From that the politicians and hysterical pundits can go crazy and application managers can reflect on institutional bias.



If your application sheet with these questions on is seen by anyone other than HR before the initial sift there’s something badly wrong.


  

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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:48pm
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Simple answer: Race doesn’t matter at all.
  


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Jasmine wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
Simple answer: Race doesn’t matter at all.

That's racist. You're racist unless you express pity for those whose ancestors really had it bad.
  

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Jasmine wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
Simple answer: Race doesn’t matter at all.


But Jizum, without race where would be 99.999% of your pathetic attempts at humor?
  

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Ulysses wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:28pm:
But Jizum, without race where would be 99.999% of your pathetic attempts at humor?

So the social worker visits a ghetto lady and asks, “How many children do you have.”

“I’s gots 12 boys,” she replies.

“Wow, that’s a lot,” the social worker says. “What are their names?”

She answers, “Well, lessee. Dey names be Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy and Leroy.”

The social worker is puzzled. “Wait. You named all of your sons ‘Leroy’? But what if you want to speak to one of your sons? How do they know who you are speaking to.”

The lady shrugs. “Oh,” she says. “Den I jus’ be calling dem by their last names.”
  


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Re: - why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - does asking imply it matters?
Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:53pm
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JohnnyBLate wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:53pm:
That's racist. You're racist unless you express pity for those whose ancestors really had it bad.



Affirmative action is not a good thing. And it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.
The simple law is good. As it means you can’t discriminate because of race or ethnicity.
The bad part was when the government insisted you employed a certain number or percent of a minority that lived in your city. I am trying to make this simple.
Say you have 100 employees, and ten percent of your area is a certain minority. So you better have 90 of whatever is totally experienced educated, and trade people to run the business, and 10 of that minority. Now if you can’t find an engineer, machinist, tool maker, electrician, computer programmer, or someone that has worked in manufacturing for years, and you still have to have that number and they don’t exist, then what?
You need a welder. No minority one is as qualified as the person available that you need. You have to have that percent number, or the government will give you a hard time.
You end up hiring two people when you only needed one. The experienced one, and one to keep affirmative action happy.
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Re: - why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - does asking imply it matters?
Reply #17 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:55pm
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Jasmine wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:40pm:
So the social worker visits a ghetto lady and asks, “How many children do you have.”

“I’s gots 12 boys,” she replies.

“Wow, that’s a lot,” the social worker says. “What are their names?”

She answers, “Well, lessee. Dey names be Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy, Leroy and Leroy.”

The social worker is puzzled. “Wait. You named all of your sons ‘Leroy’? But what if you want to speak to one of your sons? How do they know who you are speaking to.”

The lady shrugs. “Oh,” she says. “Den I jus’ be calling dem by their last names.”



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Re: - why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - does asking imply it matters?
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admin wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
- why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - doesnt asking imply it matters? - why should it matter? - isnt that racist?


I thought that it was made illegal to ask race on applications years ago.  Oh dear, am I wrong?  Misinformed?
  
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Re: - why do they ask race or ethnicity on applications? - does asking imply it matters?
Reply #19 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:46am
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USyeah wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
well that's the kinda shit that happens when you have a society that for a couple of centuries did all it could to keep certain people segregated, uneducated & later seen at best as 2nd class citizens.


So making a different race discriminated against is okay with you?  That's what it sounds like to me. Is it only against white people or is it also anti-Asian, anti Hispanic, etc. who can be discriminated against now??
  
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