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Reply #50 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:29pm
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EF wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Except he isn't draining anything.  He's rearranging the critters, taking some out, putting more in.  He's against corruption except when he benefits from it.


Nonsense.  Wink
  
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Reply #51 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:32pm
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Tillerson made public statements contradicting the President, for example on the Iran deal - no president would tolerate that.  The secretary of state doesn't run his own branch of government, he takes orders from the president.  If he can't do that, he has to leave - it's as simple as that.
  
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Reply #52 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:35pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Tillerson made public statements contradicting the President, for example on the Iran deal - no president would tolerate that. .


More often it was Trump contradicting Tillerson, for example meeting with NK Kim ..
  

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Reply #53 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:51pm
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Fiddler wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
More often it was Trump contradicting Tillerson, for example meeting with NK Kim ..


Roll Eyes

If Tillerson doesn't agree with the president, why should he stay on, or have ever accepted the job??   In spite of you folks endlessly churning this, it gets down to one thing: the SOS implements >>>the president's policy<<, period, full stop.   Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #54 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:51pm
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EF wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Except he isn't draining anything.  He's rearranging the critters, taking some out, putting more in.  He's against corruption except when he benefits from it.


The phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" comes to mind now.

  

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Reply #55 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:55pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:51pm:
Roll Eyes

If Tillerson doesn't agree with the president, why should he stay on, or have ever accepted the job??   In spite of you folks endlessly churning this, it gets down to one thing: the SOS implements >>>the president's policy<<, period, full stop.   Roll Eyes


Why even have a state department at all?  Trump is on record as saying that his opinion is the only one that matters.  He sets the diplomatic agenda.  He is a genius, after all.

Tillerson will join the growing ranks of ex-Trumpers, who found themselves at the wrong end of a Trump flip-flop one too many times.
  

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Reply #56 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:04pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:55pm:
Why even have a state department at all?  Trump is on record as saying that his opinion is the only one that matters.  He sets the diplomatic agenda.  He is a genius, after all.

Tillerson will join the growing ranks of ex-Trumpers, who found themselves at the wrong end of a Trump flip-flop one too many times.


You're inventing stuff.  Grin Trump said the Iranian deal was a bad deal way before he became president, and has maintained his position since.  Tillerson publicly contradicted Trump's well-know consistent position.
  
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Reply #57 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:13pm
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Ulysses wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:51pm:
The phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" comes to mind now.



Another silly-ass comment.  Grin  The difference in Tillerson and Pompeo is like night and day.
  
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Reply #58 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:19pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:13pm:
Another silly-ass comment.  Grin  The difference in Tillerson and Pompeo is like night and day. 


Uh-huh.

One deck chair has brown webbing. The other has green webbing.

Night and day.

Right.

The point is the Trump admin is steaming directly into an iceberg field, at full speed.
  

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Reply #59 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:21pm
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Partial list of Trump flip-flops, with regard to foreign policy:

China currency manipulation (said they were manipulators, then said they weren't)

Syria (said we should not intervene, then intervened)

NATO (said it was obsolete, then said it was no longer obsolete)

North Korea (said Tillerson was wasting his time negotiating with NK, then accepts an invitation to negotiate with NK)
  

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