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Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:15pm
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This morning we learned that President Trump finally pulled the trigger on his decision to fire Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State, and replace him with current CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

That left an opening at the head of America’s top intelligence agency. President Trump has indicated that Gina Haspel, the current Deputy Director of the CIA, will get the nomination to lead the agency.

Who is Gina Haspel? Here are five fast facts you need to know about her.

Haspel, if confirmed by a majority vote in the Senate, would be the very first female head of the CIA. This is a great achievement, and one that liberals will give no credit to Trump for.

Haspel has been a career CIA employee and once ran an agency prison in Thailand, where waterboarding was used an an extreme interrogation measure. President Trump has supported waterboarding in the past.

Being appointed director of the CIA would be a huge promotion for Haspel, but she has held multiple leadership roles within the U.S. intelligence community in the past. Her past roles include being “deputy director of the National Clandestine

Service and deputy director of the National Clandestine Service for Foreign Intelligence and Covert Action.”

Haspel was investigated for her role in heading a prison where waterboarding took place, and obeyed an order to destroy video evidence of the interrogation. The Justice Department ultimately filed no charges in the case.

Haspel has received numerous rewards and accolades for her work, including the George H. W. Bush Award for excellence in counterterrorism and the Presidential Rank Award, which is the highest award in the federal civil service.


https://thepoliticalinsider.com/gina-haspel/

I guess what we need are women running CIA torture black sites.

  

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Reply #1 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:24pm
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You know I fully support torture tactics such as waterboarding.
  


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Reply #2 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:25pm
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Jasmine wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
You know I fully support torture tactics such as waterboarding.


Just as Christ preached..
  
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Willys Wonka - Ex-Member wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:25pm:
Just as Christ preached..

Amen!
  


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Jasmine wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
You know I fully support torture tactics such as waterboarding.

I figured that but I would be more interested in seeing an ethical defense of them or an argument explaining how they are effective.
  

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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I figured that but I would be more interested in seeing an ethical defense of them or an argument explaining how they are effective.

My defense of it: In war, you do whatever it takes to win. Winning is all that matters.
  


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Jasmine wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
My defense of it: In war, you do whatever it takes to win. Winning is all that matters.

Okay but that doesn't really touch on any of the issues I raised about its effectiveness or morality.

Its just another value judgement.
  

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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
Okay but that doesn't really touch on any of the issues I raised about its effectiveness or morality.

Its just another value judgement.

Yes, and that is my value judgment.

As for its effectiveness, I don’t really know or care. If our military thinks it should be an option, than I support that.
  


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Jasmine wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Yes, and that is my value judgment.

As for its effectiveness, I don’t really know or care. If our military thinks it should be an option, than I support that.

And of course the morality of the issue is irrelevant, right?

Who cares what is done in our name?! Why should we have an opinion apart from what the government tells us to think?
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:54pm
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Jasmine wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Yes, and that is my value judgment.

As for its effectiveness, I don’t really know or care. If our military thinks it should be an option, than I support that.


Not all of the military do.  James Mattis, current SECDEF, for example.  He told Der Fuhrer during his interview for his current job that he found cigarettes and beer more effective.

And our use of it takes away our moral high ground when such is used against OUR troops.  I know, you don't care.
  

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