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Reply #20 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:55pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:24pm:
I have heard you speak in here, and I consider you a rational person. I do not believe you truly subscribe to this position. If you could win a war by destroying the planet, I am betting you would say that is a bad idea. There is a line, somewhere, where you will not cross.

Now in terms of torture, that's not your line. But to say you have no line implies you are irrational, and I find that hard to believe.

Yes, I am perfectly rational. Smiley

And having torture as an option is rational. During war, the only thing that matters is winning. Thus, you keep *ALL* options on the table. That's just common sense. Do whatever it takes to win.

Here is what I consider irrational: In wartime, people don't think twice about bombing the enemy, blowing them into pieces. They don't bat an eyelash when we shoot an enemy combatant through his neck. Yet, they fall to pieces at the very thought of torturing the enemy - not killing the enemy, just torturing them. To me, that doesn't make sense.

It's similar to the whining about chemical weapons. Chemicals, bullets, bombs, etc. - what's the difference? The results are all the same.
  

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Reply #21 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:26pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 2:15pm:
I guess what we need are women running CIA torture black sitess

Well, she has Feinstein's endorsement.

  
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Reply #22 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:33pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:55pm:
You can make your claim when we cut the genitals of our enemy and stuff them down their throat as ISIS did to our soldiers.  That was the acts of those who refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.  To me, nothing then is off the table when dealing with barbarism like ISIS.


I have heard of allied troops doing similar things.  So I guess in the final analysis - antyhing goes.  I can stand it if everybody else can.  I won't criticize anyone for doing that which I know our own side has done.
  

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Reply #23 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:39pm
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Great thread title!  Smiley

Sadly, even when the Dems are in charge they're merely kinder, gentler, machine gun hands...
  

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Reply #24 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:05pm
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Fiddler wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
If the people who've DONE the torturing for us TELL us that it doesn't work..and they do..  Why do stupid people insist that it does work ?
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I’m not an expert. I heard people argue both sides.
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:16pm
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Fiddler wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
If the people who've DONE the torturing for us TELL us that it doesn't work..and they do..  Why do stupid people insist that it does work ?
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Little fids, how many similar facts do you suppose I can find from other progressional interrogators

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/may/24/todd-wilcox/waterboardi...

Please post your data that shows all the people who perform enahanced interrogation in their past. Maybe you just missed this one.
  
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Reply #26 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:21pm
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EF wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
I have heard of allied troops doing similar things.  So I guess in the final analysis - antyhing goes.  I can stand it if everybody else can.  I won't criticize anyone for doing that which I know our own side has done.

First off link it, hearsay does not qualify as fact, next, we are not discussing the behavior of "ally" troops.  I have NEVER seen any article of our allies or our troops beheading their captives or cutting their genitals and shoving them down our captives throat!  This discussion was specifically regarding our troops and the behavior of our enemies.  You seem hell bent on moral equivocating.
  


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Reply #27 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:41pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:21pm:
First off link it, hearsay does not qualify as fact, next, we are not discussing the behavior of "ally" troops.  I have NEVER seen any article of our allies or our troops beheading their captives or cutting their genitals and shoving them down our captives throat!  This discussion was specifically regarding our troops and the behavior of our enemies.  You seem hell bent on moral equivocating.


Geez seawolf. Links? Data? Facts? I like reading posts from wads and fids and their pals. Don’t shut them out of these conversations.
  
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Reply #28 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:49pm
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Couldn't resist.



  

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Reply #29 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 10:59pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:21pm:
, hearsay does not qualify as fact,


unless you're talking about the resurrection of Jesus..  AmIRight?... .Can I get an amen?.. .. .. 


  

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