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Re: Will Christians give the President a pass on his infidelities?
Reply #40 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:39pm
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fair-minded know it all wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
If they do theology correctly then good political decisions will naturally follow.


This is a weird way to announce you're changing your theology.
  

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Reply #41 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 4:37am
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Would we Christians love a President who is the most righteous of men? Sure. Big problem: no one is righteous except by faith. We are all like sheep gone astray and no one is righteous. The only thing that makes us righteous is our faith, and in our faith we act in obedience.
President Trump is a billionaire and most billionaires these days tend to be proud sinners. Though the fact remains that our nation needed a leader that was pro-America and for the people. We didn't have that with Obama and we wouldn't have had that with Hillary either. Both Obama and Hillary put America dead last. The progressives even went as far as to place Islamic emigration over the better interest of the nation. Trump was not going to just let America fall like this. He didn't have to run for President...but he did. He ran because he loves this country and that is the only reason why he ran.
When we consider the choices we had Trump was the most conservative pick of the crop. We Christians know he is not a perfect role model Pastor. But we also know he was never a Pastor to begin with. We wanted a leader who would stop acting insane and put the interests of America and Americans first. We voted for him because he was the only one who was gonna make America great again.
  

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Re: Will Christians give the President a pass on his infidelities?
Reply #42 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 9:43pm
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FEZZILLA wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 4:37am:
Would we Christians love a President who is the most righteous of men? Sure. Big problem: no one is righteous except by faith. We are all like sheep gone astray and no one is righteous. The only thing that makes us righteous is our faith, and in our faith we act in obedience.
President Trump is a billionaire and most billionaires these days tend to be proud sinners. Though the fact remains that our nation needed a leader that was pro-America and for the people. We didn't have that with Obama and we wouldn't have had that with Hillary either. Both Obama and Hillary put America dead last. The progressives even went as far as to place Islamic emigration over the better interest of the nation. Trump was not going to just let America fall like this. He didn't have to run for President...but he did. He ran because he loves this country and that is the only reason why he ran.
When we consider the choices we had Trump was the most conservative pick of the crop. We Christians know he is not a perfect role model Pastor. But we also know he was never a Pastor to begin with. We wanted a leader who would stop acting insane and put the interests of America and Americans first. We voted for him because he was the only one who was gonna make America great again.


Epic fail.
  

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Reply #43 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 10:36pm
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Running Deer wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
Evangelicals don't give a shit about decency, morality, and righteousness, except as a club to beat their enemies with.

Explain.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #44 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 11:29pm
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EF wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 9:43pm:
Epic fail.


How so?
  

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Re: Will Christians give the President a pass on his infidelities?
Reply #45 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 11:38am
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EF wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 9:43pm:
Epic fail.

Our choices of the character of both was abysmal, yours was epic.  Tell me what was Hillary's redeeming values?  As much as folks think that Christians should be called out for voting for Trump I can say the same about the Clintons.
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"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #46 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 4:50pm
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Good point, Seawolf. Hillary had the most phony faith in God and even her following knows she's an occultist. She supported abortions on the day of delivery. That's straight out baby killing. She supported the mass genocide of all non-muslim Americans, including gay Americans, by her support for allowing Islamic jihadists to enter into this country--all muslim emigrants being all men of fighting age. Anyone who wants to endanger American lives through her careless use of her private server or by bringing in a foreign army of Islamic invaders hell bent on killing Americans, is not morally fit to be President and precisely the reason why she lost.
  

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Reply #47 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 5:20pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 11:38am:
Our choices of the character of both was abysmal, yours was epic.  Tell me what was Hillary's redeeming values?  As much as folks think that Christians should be called out for voting for Trump I can say the same about the Clintons.


I wasn't promoting Hillary.  I agree that both choices were abysmal.  But I know why Trump won and continues to have such strong support from his "base" - it's because he isn't Hillary.  Not because he brought "sanity" to the Oval Office.
  

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Re: Will Christians give the President a pass on his infidelities?
Reply #48 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 5:21pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Explain.


Trump as president is like Earl Long as Governor of Louisiana.
  

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Re: Will Christians give the President a pass on his infidelities?
Reply #49 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 9:50pm
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Limey. wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
I dunno - you'd have to throw out much of the OT, for a start.

And then you're in the uncomfortable position of choosing between right and wrong, on the one hand, and observance of Scripture on the other.

Plus, there are quite a lot of different Christian churches who don't always, shall we say, agree entirely. There are two within 500 yards of my house who differ markedly on some quite major points.

Who are you going to get as the fount of wisdom on the theology?
Throw out the Old Testament!?  Odd thing to say.  Who are we going to get for the fount of wisdom on theology?  I think that scripture is full of the knowledge we need for choices.  Throwing out the Old Testament means verses like the following would be discarded according to you.

Proverbs 1:7 ESV

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 2:1-22 ESV
My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God. ...
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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