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What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State
Apr 14th, 2018 at 4:30pm
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What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State

  • Developments in multiple cases involving President Donald Trump and his associates prove the legal system is working.
  • Trump is in a great deal of trouble.
  • That's because the machinery of justice is operating as it should, even when Trump tries to intervene.


We are a nation where the Justice Department can and does obtain a search warrant for the premises of the president's own personal lawyer — as long as the Justice Department goes though an appropriate legal process, and even when its doing so is sure to make the president very, very angry at the people he hired to run the Justice Department.

These recent developments have proceeded in a manner that undermines both pro-Trump and anti-Trump narratives around our legal system.

President Donald Trump is in a great deal of trouble — not mainly because of who is in charge of the Justice Department, but because the machinery of justice as a whole appears to operating as it is supposed to, even when specific controls on that machinery are controlled by Trump's own appointees.

The system is bureaucratic, and it is working
Consider the raid on the hotel room and offices of Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen. These raids arose out of a referral from the office of the special counsel (that is, Robert Mueller) but were:

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Sought by the office of the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York;
Approved by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein;
And authorized by a magistrate judge.

Rosenstein is Trump's nominee, though you might forget that given the president's near-constant raging against him. The interim US Attorney for the SDNY, Geoffrey Berman, is also a Trump appointee, though he is recused from this case— again, an example of the bureaucracy behaving as it is supposed to.

This isn't a case of Mueller behaving like Inspector Javert and looking through anybody's files he wants. It's a case of him setting off an arms-length process which led to a diverse group of officials deciding the correct course of action was a highly unusual raid not just on any lawyer, but the president's lawyer.

Criminal defense attorney Ken White has a useful post laying out how high the hurdles must have been to get such raids approved, and why the president should be very concerned that they were met.

The distributed nature of this system creates a problem for Trump. He is not up against a conspiracy of a few political enemies, whom he can fire and replace with loyalists who will dispose of investigations that are inconvenient to him. He is up against a vast bureaucracy with a commitment to the rule of law, which has so far proved fairly resilient against his attempts to interfere.

People worry a lot about the decay of legal institutions in the US. But if we had really become a banana republic, it would have been impossible for these raids to happen.

Because the system works, Trump can't save himself through firings


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http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-legal-system-working-michael-cohen-2018-4
  

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Re: What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State
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Yaaaaaaaaa  - here's an example of the "Regular State" in action in the current era:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."


The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.


In texts previously revealed, Strzok and Page have shown their disdain for Republicans in general, as well as Trump, calling him a "f---ing idiot," among other insults.

Among the newly disclosed texts, Strzok also calls Virginians who voted against then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe's wife for a state Senate seat "ignorant hillbillys." (sic)
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 5:34pm
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Vypr wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 4:30pm:
What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State




Since when did you become a believer in the existence of the deep state?
  
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Re: What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State
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glen65 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 5:34pm:
Since when did you become a believer in the existence of the deep state?

Roll Eyes  There is no claim of "deep state" in the article. It is dismissive of the very idea by dint of the focus on just the regular gears of justice turning and properly handling Trump and La Familia. Trump calls anything that could put him legally at risk the "deep state". He's a fool. Trump puts Trump at risk.
  

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glen65 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 5:34pm:
Since when did you become a believer in the existence of the deep state?

Little vypr TROLL is sweatin bullets worrying  the Inspector general has lots of proof on the obama/clinton crime family.
  

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RWB wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 6:05pm:
Little vypr TROLL is sweatin bullets worrying  the Inspector general has lots of proof on the obama/clinton crime family.


Don't know about that,
But if the recent raid doesn't turn up hard evidence, Trump and his campaign indeed collaborated with the Russians to meddle with the 2016 election, it's going to be one hell of a blow against Mueller.
  
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glen65 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
Don't know about that,
But if the recent raid doesn't turn up hard evidence, Trump and his campaign indeed collaborated with the Russians to meddle with the 2016 election, it's going to be one hell of a blow against Mueller.      


There was no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians when hils made the charge, and now after a year and more of investigation there still is no evidence of collusion.   However, that isn't stopping the dems.  Their attitude is evidence; who needs it?  Hey, that should be name of hils next book Evidence, Who Needs It?.  Comey could co-author.
  
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Re: What should scare Trump most isn't the Deep State — it's the Regular State
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 8:31am:
There was no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians when hils made the charge, and now after a year and more of investigation there still is no evidence of collusion.   However, that isn't stopping the dems.  Their attitude is evidence; who needs it?  Hey, that should be name of hils next book Evidence, Who Needs It?.  Comey could co-author.



Wasn't that title already used by Ken Starr and Trey goudy?
  

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