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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #20 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 4:01am
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Ulysses wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 3:57am:
That's your opinion.

Well, based on Vyper any you starting threads based on opinion pieces and you girls predicting Trump will be indicted on things other than Russian collusion I'd say I'm spot on.
  

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #21 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 5:34am
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Queshank wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Mueller’s obstruction of justice case against Trump looks damning

Again it begs the question ... if there's no "collusion" what's the obstruction.

But the better question is ... what do people think will change because of it?

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The change is that he'll go into his second term as POTUS.   No more threads about the impossibility of him winning another election.
  
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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #22 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 10:03am
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The Republican Bill Clinton will be run out of town on a rail.

And it won't be for colluding. The colluding is simply Whitewater, the initial charge that set in motion the full vetting of a man unqualified to hold the position. Unlike Bill, the Donald episode is on a faster trajectory so I honestly don't see a second term.
  

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #23 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 10:27am
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Special investigations are the special sauce of political fast food.
  

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #24 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:19am
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 10:03am:
The Republican Bill Clinton will be run out of town on a rail.

And it won't be for colluding. The colluding is simply Whitewater, the initial charge that set in motion the full vetting of a man unqualified to hold the position. Unlike Bill, the Donald episode is on a faster trajectory so I honestly don't see a second term.


But isn't that what everyone already thought was going to happen anyway?

Every Democrat has always been convinced they're going to take the House back.

A lot of Democrats have been so delusional they honestly thought they were taking the Senate.

I've got several people who were so convinced Donald doesn't win a second term they've been making bets with me.  (I now acknowledge I'm likely to lose them .. the Cohen raid is the first actual indication he might not win again.)

So what's going to change as a result of this investigation among people who were convinced on November 10th, 2016 there was no way Trump was winning again in 2020?  That's how early I placed my first bet.

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #25 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:04am
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Let me try to explain what I'm getting at.

The left seems so dogmatically convinced that they can somehow remove Trump from office because he's unpopular.

Were that true, they would be right.  It wouldn't be as hard to get 67 senators to vote to remove Trump from office if he was exceedingly unpopular.

But the fact is, Trump is very popular with the Republican base.  He's not popular with the Republican Congressmen.  But Republican Congressmen, out of fear and self preservation, are going to do what their base wants them to do.  They've been rocked regularly in the past ten years and are a bit uncertain of their footing.

And as long as the Republican base agrees with Trump and sees the investigation and the media talking heads as simply rejecting the president they elected into office ... this investigation is going nowhere.

I've tried other ways of pointing this out.  That the investigation simply doesn't matter.  That the Democrats and the media going all in on this only has the potential to hurt them with no upside.

But it doesn't get through.  And our media continues to go out of its way to discredit itself by appearing too partisan and anti Trump.  CNN has especially been easily baited into this approach. 

Your only hope in getting rid of Trump is defeating him in the 2020 elections.  So long as Trump remains popular with the Republican base, even if the Democrats sweep all the elections this November, you're not getting Trump removed from office any other way.

I think the Cohen raid is the first sign that it's possible he might have weaknesses that can be exploited to make him lose in 2020. 

But that doesn't make it a sure thing. 

And I'm fully aware I might be underestimating the Democratic potential for discrediting themselves even further by letting our media tip their hand too much in their favor over this investigation.  They don't need less credibility than they already have.

The problem is our news outlets are more interested in making money than in reporting news.  And Trump is good for their bottom lines.  So we're going to get more gossip.  More steamy details about affairs with buxom porn stars and Playboy playmates.  And like I facetiously stated once before, we can tell how unpopular that is among the American people by what absolute disasters and major flops the Iron Man movies were and how much women despise that disgusting Tony Stark (Robert Downy Jr) for his womanizing ways.  If you think it's silly to make an observation about American culture and tie it to political views I think you're silly.

Our news outlets need to gossip less and news more.  They need to just report on developments as they occur.  Not go all in on shit like this Comey book and the "salacious" gossip it contains.  And not spend hours every evening gossiping about what *might* be contained in Cohen's files. 

Because by the time we actually know what's in them, it's quite possible the American people won't give a shit anymore.

There's no scenario where Trump is led out of the oval office in handcuffs.  That's not how this shit works. 

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #26 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:29am
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Vypr wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:04pm:
Ask why you insist Trump or his people couldn't have committed serious crimes? That's always seemingly your basis and at best you are simply wrong given what increasingly comes to light, or at worst you know it and refuse to admit it and have some agenda.


And you insist that Trump or his people could have committed serious crimes.  Okey dokey, what are the crimes and where is the evidence?

On edit:  I forgot to say the "could have committed" could also apply to any of us.  It's in the coulda, woulda, shoulda category.  Quite  non-specific words.  I remember my mom saying that she didn't say I could do something, and I'd mumble "Well, you could have or should have  or would have.   Grin
  
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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #27 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:38am
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Queshank wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:04am:

Personally, based on everything I have seen over the last two years of following it, I am 100% confident Trump is extremely corrupt. I am also fully confident that Mueller will show this as part of the indictments he brings against his underlings on election fraud and conspiracy. That said, I am hoping STRONGLY that Mueller comes out with the big charges before the midterms so the Republican congress is made to decide what to do with it. It should not be a Democrat decision.
  

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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #28 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:51am
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 10:03am:
The Republican Bill Clinton will be run out of town on a rail.

And it won't be for colluding. The colluding is simply Whitewater, the initial charge that set in motion the full vetting of a man unqualified to hold the position. Unlike Bill, the Donald episode is on a faster trajectory so I honestly don't see a second term.


Possibly, possibly not.   Smiley   

The man has been in the public limelight for years and years.  Most people didn't see a first term for him.  Betting on a second term over two years prior to an election seems a wee bit silly, to me.  Right now I like what he has accomplished and I wish him well for this term and possibly a second term.
  
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Re: The Impeach Trump End Game
Reply #29 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:54am
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Vypr wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:38am:
Personally, based on everything I have seen over the last two years of following it, I am 100% confident Trump is extremely corrupt. I am also fully confident that Mueller will show this as part of the indictments he brings against his underlings on election fraud and conspiracy. That said, I am hoping STRONGLY that Mueller comes out with the big charges before the midterms so the Republican congress is made to decide what to do with it. It should not be a Democrat decision.


What are those "everything I have seen over the last two years" that make you "100% confident Trump is extremely corrupt"?
  
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