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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #40 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:08pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Actually, Q, there's a lot  more going on than this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-03/donald-trump-business-dealings-in-indonesi...

All roads lead to Trump.

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Yeah.  Globalism bad.

How DARE Trump have projects in Indonesia in 2015 before he was elected president.

Look Greg, I know it looks bad.  I know Trump as a global businessman president is the first of his kind.

And I'm with you that Trump should be divesting himself of his business interests.

But you were the guy saying a little grift never hurt nothing.  What happened to that guy? 

This isn't going to go anywhere.  It's already being pushed into the background by the latest salivating frenzy over the newest Russia releases.  Which add nothing but further evidence that Trump Jr is innocent.  But it doesn't matter it's going to reinforce your impressions.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #41 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:13pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Is a loan profit?

Also something that the NeverTrump crowd is losing sight of.  (See my observations about goat crappity smacking in another thread for why)

Trump Indonesia Real Estate Project Gets Chinese Government Ally - NY Times, May 15, 2018

The Indonesian partner, the MNC Group, said Tuesday that it had struck a deal with an arm of Metallurgical Corporation of China, a state-owned construction company, to build a theme park next door to the planned Trump properties.

Also the deal between the Chinese state-owned company, M.C.C., and the Indonesian developer falls under the umbrella of China’s Belt and Road Initiative, an ambitious plan to spread the country’s money and influence around the world by financing infrastructure and other projects.

Both the theme park and the Trump-branded hotel and 18-hole golf course are being developed by the billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, head of the MNC Group

You guys are always so quick to jump on everything and scream at the top of your lungs like Judge Smails. 

Like I said ... this thread amounts to "globalism is evil."  Ironic, no?

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running circles for donnie again, huh Q?

yes a loan can be profit - it depends on the circumstances - say, offering to change law or policy as a condition of securing the loan - as both Donnie and jarivanka appear to have done

your Qsplaining is beginning to make you look foolish



  

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #42 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:15pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Yeah.  Globalism bad.

How DARE Trump have projects in Indonesia in 2015 before he was elected president.

Look Greg, I know it looks bad.  I know Trump as a global businessman president is the first of his kind.

And I'm with you that Trump should be divesting himself of his business interests.

But you were the guy saying a little grift never hurt nothing.  What happened to that guy? 

This isn't going to go anywhere.  It's already being pushed into the background by the latest salivating frenzy over the newest Russia releases.  Which add nothing but further evidence that Trump Jr is innocent.  But it doesn't matter it's going to reinforce your impressions.

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Q, do you know what a "little grift" is?  A little grift is if you're the mayor and you have to contract to get the town park landscaped.  So you have the contractor buy 14 trees and 3000 yards of sod to do the job.  You make him understand that the park only needs 11 trees and 2200 yards of sod.  The rest gets dropped off at the mayors house.  That's a little grift.  This, what Trump is doing, is out of control.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #43 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:16pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:05pm:


according to sources, mine does have the better title
  

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #44 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:23pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:13pm:
running circles for donnie again, huh Q?

yes a loan can be profit - it depends on the circumstances - say, offering to change law or policy as a condition of securing the loan - as both Donnie and jarivanka appear to have done

your Qsplaining is beginning to make you look foolish


Good luck with bringing down Trump now that you've all so thoroughly poisoned the well billy.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #45 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:24pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Q, do you know what a "little grift" is?  A little grift is if you're the mayor and you have to contract to get the town park landscaped.  So you have the contractor buy 14 trees and 3000 yards of sod to do the job.  You make him understand that the park only needs 11 trees and 2200 yards of sod.  The rest gets dropped off at the mayors house.  That's a little grift.  This, what Trump is doing, is out of control.

Greg


So the fact that Trump is getting paid for a business deal he engaged in before he became president is "grift?"

I only wish this could be what sinks Trump's boat Greg.  I'm simply showing you where the holes in Ulysses' ironclad impeachment case lie.

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Reply #46 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:27pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:24pm:
So the fact that Trump is getting paid for a business deal he engaged in before he became president is "grift?"

I only wish this could be what sinks Trump's boat Greg.  I'm simply showing you where the holes in Ulysses' ironclad impeachment case lie.

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Yeah, Q.  It's grift.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #47 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:45pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Yeah, Q.  It's grift.

Greg


Yeah I'm struggling to put the best face on this.

I'm trying to rationalize it the way a Trump supporter would. 

It's crappity smacking gross.  And it requires not paying attention.

I wish I could say Trump really crappity smacked up by reversing direction on this ZTE issue.  But I can't.  It's just not going to matter Greg.  There's too much room to maneuver.  If people hadn't been criticizing the punishment for ZTE as being so heavy handed (not just China) maybe it would be different.  But there's too much information on that already out there.

The American people need to hold Trump accountable for violating the emoluments clauses.  And frankly even the best spin doesn't erase that on this issue.  Nor does it eliminate the faint whiff of corruption that'll always hover over this issue.

But the American people aren't going to.  And that's my point.  The well is so crappity smacking poisoned at this point, that critics of Trump including our major news outlets who have way overplayed their hands, are going to have no impact.

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Reply #48 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:47pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Yeah I'm struggling to put the best face on this.

I'm trying to rationalize it the way a Trump supporter would. 

It's crappity smacking gross.  And it requires not paying attention.

I wish I could say Trump really crappity smacked up by reversing direction on this ZTE issue.  But I can't.  It's just not going to matter Greg.  There's too much room to maneuver.  If people hadn't been criticizing the punishment for ZTE as being so heavy handed (not just China) maybe it would be different.  But there's too much information on that already out there.

The American people need to hold Trump accountable for violating the emoluments clauses.  And frankly even the best spin doesn't erase that on this issue.  Nor does it eliminate the faint whiff of corruption that'll always hover over this issue.

But the American people aren't going to.  And that's my point.  The well is so crappity smacking poisoned at this point, that critics of Trump including our major news outlets who have way overplayed their hands, are going to have no impact.

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If Hannity or Limbaugh don't bring it up...  Nobody cares....

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #49 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:52pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
If Hannity or Limbaugh don't bring it up...  Nobody cares....

Greg


Our news outlets have so overplayed their hands as well tho that if CNN or the New York Times brings it up... that's a reason right there not to care either.

We can't overlook that side of the coin.  Because that wound is self inflicted.

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