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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #50 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:57pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
Our news outlets have so overplayed their hands as well tho that if CNN or the New York Times brings it up... that's a reason right there not to care either.

We can't overlook that side of the coin.  Because that wound is self inflicted.

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.... meanwhile, back at Stormy!   Tongue

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #51 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
.... meanwhile, back at Stormy!   Tongue

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Greg!

Avenatti is now pushing Stormy off the front page!  Hollywood Reporter is starting to question if Stormy is getting her money's worth from him with his 3 ring circus.  He's becoming the news story.

Did I call it that guy's a showboat or did I call it?

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #52 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:05pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
Greg!

Avenatti is now pushing Stormy off the front page!  Hollywood Reporter is starting to question if Stormy is getting her money's worth from him with his 3 ring circus.  He's becoming the news story.

Did I call it that guy's a showboat or did I call it?

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LOL!!  Still, Trump should settle...

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #53 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:21pm
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To bring it back to Vypr's topic....

This really is the cleanest, least partisan example of Trump violating the emolument clause we've seen so far.  (And even there there's wiggle room for Trump.)

I only wish the left hadn't spent the last 2 years shitting a brick about it. 

There's this little principle that works on the human psyche called "crying wolf" that I think we're going to be dealing with now.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #54 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
To bring it back to Vypr's topic....

This really is the cleanest, least partisan example of Trump violating the emolument clause we've seen so far.  (And even there there's wiggle room for Trump.)

I only wish the left hadn't spent the last 2 years shitting a brick about it. 

There's this little principle that works on the human psyche called "crying wolf" that I think we're going to be dealing with now.

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For me, it's very simple.  "Citizen" Trump could not have pulled this deal off by giving the Chinamen what they wanted for ZTE.  "President" Trump could and did give them what they wanted and in return, they gave him what HE wanted.

Easy.  Grift. 

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #55 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
For me, it's very simple.  "Citizen" Trump could not have pulled this deal off by giving the Chinamen what they wanted for ZTE.  "President" Trump could and did give them what they wanted and in return, they gave him what HE wanted.

Easy.  Grift. 

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Ah, but he might not have had to had he not slapped sanctions on China to begin with.

He might not have had to if everyone hadn't been so critical of the heavy handed punishment ZTE was slapped with.

See the wiggle room?

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #56 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:29pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Ah, but he might not have had to had he not slapped sanctions on China to begin with.

He might not have had to if everyone hadn't been so critical of the heavy handed punishment ZTE was slapped with.

See the wiggle room?

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Maybe... But wasn't that ZTE stuff doled out BEFORE he became president?  I think so.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #57 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:32pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
Maybe... But wasn't that ZTE stuff doled out BEFORE he became president?  I think so.

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All About ZTE, the Chinese Sanctions Breaker That Trump Wants to Help - NY Times, May 14, 2018

No only the report and the fines.  In 2016.

It was just last month the Commerce Department punished them more severely and forbade US companies from doing business with them.  THAT is what Trump says he'll work with them on.

AND China is insisting it's part of any negotiations to bring them to the table on trade.

See more wiggle room there?

Trump's not an amateur con man guys.

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #58 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:36pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
All About ZTE, the Chinese Sanctions Breaker That Trump Wants to Help - NY Times, May 14, 2018

No only the report and the fines.  In 2016.

It was just last month the Commerce Department punished them more severely and forbade US companies from doing business with them.  THAT is what Trump says he'll work with them on.

AND China is insisting it's part of any negotiations to bring them to the table on trade.

See more wiggle room there?

Trump's not an amateur con man guys.

Queshank


If this is the case, wouldn't this be more along the lines of a shakedown?  You know "I'm gonna put sanctions on your company and you gotta pay me to take them off".  Isn't that the Chicago way?

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Re: Trump helps sanctioned Chinese company after China gives big loan to Trump project
Reply #59 - May 16th, 2018 at 2:38pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
If this is the case, wouldn't this be more along the lines of a shakedown?  You know "I'm gonna put sanctions on your company and you gotta pay me to take them off".  Isn't that the Chicago way?

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Ask Obama

BOOM!!!

Just kidding, just kidding.

But there we've got years of rhetoric from the left about how bad China is on trade, copyright violations and currency manipulation.  We've even got leftist champion Paul Krugman actually proposing 25% tariffs on all Chinese goods.

Wiggle room that a con man knows how to recognize and exploit.

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