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DC Judge clears Mueller to go after Manafort
May 16th, 2018 at 8:43am
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Federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson on Tuesday rejected former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's attempt to invalidate the criminal case against him in Washington.

Manafort had claimed special counsel Robert Mueller's appointment order was too broad, and thus his investigation had overstepped its legal authority.

But Berman Jackson concluded for several reasons that Mueller's investigation and prosecution of Manafort is legal -- and that the special counsel still can maintain some independence while working within the Department of Justice.

Manafort has pleaded not guilty to charges related to his lobbying work for Ukrainian politicians dating back to a decade ago.

"It bears emphasizing at this stage that Manafort is presumed to be innocent of these charges, and it will be the prosecution's burden to prove him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. But the indictment will not be dismissed, and the matter will proceed to trial," Berman Jackson wrote in her opinion Tuesday.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/manafort-special-counsel/index.html

But.... But...  the judge in Virginia said Mueller is out of his mandate...  He thinks..

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Re: DC Judge clears Mueller to go after Manafort
Reply #1 - May 16th, 2018 at 8:58am
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Did this broad get a copy of the mandate as the other judge demanded?

Let's see what happens in that case.
  

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Frenchconnection wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 8:58am:
Did this broad get a copy of the mandate as the other judge demanded?

Let's see what happens in that case.


I suspect "the broad" did.  So yeah, it's going to trial (if he doesn't roll first)...

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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:21am
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:14am:
I suspect "the broad" did.  So yeah, it's going to trial (if he doesn't roll first)...

Greg


Suspect?  Come on, Gretchen, is your kung fu really that weak? 

Basically there is no evidence that she has seen Herr Mueller's mandate, and considering that the other judge had to threaten to get a unredacted copy, it's highly doubtful she received it without demand. 

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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:31am
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Frenchconnection wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:21am:
Suspect?  Come on, Gretchen, is your kung fu really that weak? 

Basically there is no evidence that she has seen Herr Mueller's mandate, and considering that the other judge had to threaten to get a unredacted copy, it's highly doubtful she received it without demand. 

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Apparently she HAS seen Mueller's mandate:

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“Given the combination of his prominence within the campaign and his ties to Ukrainian officials supported by and operating out of Russia, as well as to Russian oligarchs, Manafort was an obvious person of interest,“ she wrote. “Given what was being said publicly, the Special Counsel would have been remiss to ignore such an obvious potential link between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.“

Manafort’s lawyers argued that a portion of Rosenstein’s order that gave Mueller the authority to pursue “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation” gave the special counsel more authority than permitted under Justice Department regulations for such prosecutors.

Jackson, however, said Manafort’s arguments were not persuasive for several reasons. First, she said, the subjects that Manafort was indicted for the case she was overseeing were part of Mueller’s core focus, not some expansion of it. Second, she said, outsiders don’t have the authority to enforce the special counsel regulations, because they’re internal Justice Department policies. And third, she found that Rosenstein has validated the indictment through continuing consultation with and supervision of Mueller.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/15/manafort-mueller-indictment-590215

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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2018 at 11:46am
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:31am:
Apparently she HAS seen Mueller's mandate:


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/15/manafort-mueller-indictment-590215

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Oh, then she must be part of the "Deep State"... right?

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Reply #6 - May 16th, 2018 at 12:14pm
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Ulysses wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Oh, then she must be part of the "Deep State"... right?

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Here's the money shot:

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Second, she said, outsiders don’t have the authority to enforce the special counsel regulations, because they’re internal Justice Department policies.


That'll flat git it....

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Re: DC Judge clears Mueller to go after Manafort
Reply #7 - May 16th, 2018 at 12:29pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Here's the money shot:


That'll flat git it....

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It's so obvious I can see why some here are having a hard time grasping it.

Do you think Manafort will flip on Trump?

  

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Ulysses wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
It's so obvious I can see why some here are having a hard time grasping it.

Do you think Manafort will flip on Trump?



Good question.  I don't know.  He's a hard head.  I think he figures a pardon will save his worthless ass but he knows like everybody else knows.  A pardon ain't gonna save him from a New York state rap.  So, really, I dunno...

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Re: DC Judge clears Mueller to go after Manafort
Reply #9 - May 16th, 2018 at 1:23pm
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You phucking idiot!  She ruled that, in so many words, she doesn't need to see the scope of his assignment, she believes that he can, because he is. 

Phuck you're stupid, Gretchen.
  

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