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Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
May 16th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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The real issue that people are kind of ignoring in their focus on all things Trump is one at least the Democratic Party has focused on.  I'll be honest I'd kind of forgotten about it until reddit and youtube started in again with their world is ending rhetoric in the past couple weeks.

Senate passes measure repealing changes to net neutrality rules

There is no issue where young people are more ignorant and pampered than this one.  And no issue more likely to drive them to the polls in a panic than the idea they might have to pay an extra $10-$20 for Internet every month. 

I personally don't really care.  The pros and cons of each position kind of cancel themselves out.  Saving $10-$20 a month isn't that big of a deal, but hey it is $10-$20 a month.  The pros of increased Internet development in disadvantaged areas around the world are huge, but ... kids don't see that and can't seem to comprehend it, so that's not as important to them as it is to someone a little more seasoned like myself.

The Republicans need to come up with a counter narrative on net neutrality that doesn't involve that twit Ajit Pai regularly making an ass of himself.  Or any hopes they have of holding the House are kaput.

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #1 - May 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
The real issue that people are kind of ignoring in their focus on all things Trump is one at least the Democratic Party has focused on.  I'll be honest I'd kind of forgotten about it until reddit and youtube started in again with their world is ending rhetoric in the past couple weeks.

Senate passes measure repealing changes to net neutrality rules

There is no issue where young people are more ignorant and pampered than this one.  And no issue more likely to drive them to the polls in a panic than the idea they might have to pay an extra $10-$20 for Internet every month. 

I personally don't really care.  The pros and cons of each position kind of cancel themselves out.  Saving $10-$20 a month isn't that big of a deal, but hey it is $10-$20 a month.  The pros of increased Internet development in disadvantaged areas around the world are huge, but ... kids don't see that and can't seem to comprehend it, so that's not as important to them as it is to someone a little more seasoned like myself.

The Republicans need to come up with a counter narrative on net neutrality that doesn't involve that twit Ajit Pai regularly making an ass of himself.  Or any hopes they have of holding the House are kaput.

Queshank


I hadn't realized until now how naive Q must be.

  

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #2 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:12pm
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Ulysses wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
I hadn't realized until now how naive Q must be.



Y'know the one thing I truly admire about you Ulysses, and I'm not being sarcastic at all...

Is how you really dig in there and address what people say and do your best to engage in rational discourse. 

Not like these other schlubs around here who never address the topic and just engage in insults like children.

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #3 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:22pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
The real issue that people are kind of ignoring in their focus on all things Trump is one at least the Democratic Party has focused on.  I'll be honest I'd kind of forgotten about it until reddit and youtube started in again with their world is ending rhetoric in the past couple weeks.

Senate passes measure repealing changes to net neutrality rules

There is no issue where young people are more ignorant and pampered than this one.  And no issue more likely to drive them to the polls in a panic than the idea they might have to pay an extra $10-$20 for Internet every month. 

I personally don't really care.  The pros and cons of each position kind of cancel themselves out.  Saving $10-$20 a month isn't that big of a deal, but hey it is $10-$20 a month.  The pros of increased Internet development in disadvantaged areas around the world are huge, but ... kids don't see that and can't seem to comprehend it, so that's not as important to them as it is to someone a little more seasoned like myself.

The Republicans need to come up with a counter narrative on net neutrality that doesn't involve that twit Ajit Pai regularly making an ass of himself.  Or any hopes they have of holding the House are kaput.

Queshank


There were some articles last month about the democrats polling badly with the kids.
  

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #4 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:36pm
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Mr Kite and his benefit wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
There were some articles last month about the democrats polling badly with the kids.


Last night's primaries ushered in a lot of Democratic Socialists.  That's actually promising to get the kids out to the polls.  In conjunction with the net neutrality repeal.

Although to be honest ... it's more likely kids will forget it's election day because they were hard at a competitive game of Call of Duty and smoked juuuust a little bit too much pot.  Ulysses know I know my shit there.  Right bro!?

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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:37pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Last night's primaries ushered in a lot of Democratic Socialists.  That's actually promising to get the kids out to the polls.  In conjunction with the net neutrality repeal.

Although to be honest ... it's more likely kids will forget it's election day because they were hard at a competitive game of Call of Duty and smoked juuuust a little bit too much pot.  Ulysses know I know my shit there.  Right bro!?

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Didn't the democrats will elections recently on a more moderate platform?
  

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #6 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm
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Mr Kite and his benefit wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:37pm:
Didn't the democrats will elections recently on a more moderate platform?


Yeah.  But those were in pretty red districts.  And everything I've read has the Democratic leadership shittin a brick in panic about November.  Every moderate lost their primary run.  In their place are a lot of activists pushing Medicare for All and free college and shit.  Bernie Bros. 

Kids adored Bernie.  My daughter and all her friends thought Bernie was the shit. 

At one point in the 2016 campaign I remember sharing an article which suggested the reason Democrats never show up in midterms is the Democratic party never stands for anything and gives them a reason to show up.

Net neutrality?  Democratic socialism ideas like medicare for all and free college?

That could mirror the Trumpian movement don't you think?

Pretty much everybody thinks since the gerrymandering was redrawn to favor the Democrats in Pennsylvania they're going to pick up 6 seats there.  That one state puts them 25% of the way towards taking back the House if that holds true.

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #7 - May 16th, 2018 at 9:50pm
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Yeah.  But those were in pretty red districts.  And everything I've read has the Democratic leadership shittin a brick in panic about November.  Every moderate lost their primary run.  In their place are a lot of activists pushing Medicare for All and free college and shit.  Bernie Bros. 

Kids adored Bernie.  My daughter and all her friends thought Bernie was the shit. 

At one point in the 2016 campaign I remember sharing an article which suggested the reason Democrats never show up in midterms is the Democratic party never stands for anything and gives them a reason to show up.

Net neutrality?  Democratic socialism ideas like medicare for all and free college?

That could mirror the Trumpian movement don't you think?

Pretty much everybody thinks since the gerrymandering was redrawn to favor the Democrats in Pennsylvania they're going to pick up 6 seats there.  That one state puts them 25% of the way towards taking back the House if that holds true.

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Bernies ideas sound great until you get down to specifics. when the specifics are known the opinion changes. he is a fraud and we dodged a bullet the last election.
  

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #8 - May 17th, 2018 at 12:40am
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Queshank wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Pretty much everybody thinks since the gerrymandering was redrawn to favor the Democrats in Pennsylvania they're going to pick up 6 seats there.  That one state puts them 25% of the way towards taking back the House if that holds true.

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You're wrong if you are asserting the PA districts were redrawn to favor the Dems.

In point of fact, they were redrawn by court order so that they more closely adhere to the specifications in the state constitution. This has resulted in much less tortured district boundaries. That this favors the Democrats is a side effect of the the elimination of highly tweaked gerrymandered former boundaries that discriminated against the Democrats.

In any case, it's good news. This nation desperately needs to break the GOP's (and hence Trump's) hold on the government.

  

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Re: Trump isn't what Dems should run on in November. Net neutrality is
Reply #9 - May 17th, 2018 at 12:49am
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Unless the economy takes a shit or a new war starts the Dems really don't have anything that can turn the tide in their favor.  Sure they can pick up a few seats from the Reps in areas running terribly flawed candidates, like what happened in Alabama, but that isn't going to do much for them.

They have literally no nationally recognized charismatic candidate, as of now, that can unite the party in the manner that Obama did.

All they have is the same ole pet issues: identity politics, abortion, and immigration....just like the Reps.  Net neutrality just really isn't that big on the radar for the common middle or low wage earners and trying to court the unreliable youth vote is risky unless you have a very charismatic younger leader.

And then there's Trump.  All they can really do is attack Trump.
  

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