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False gods and the Sacrifice of Children
May 20th, 2018 at 9:31am
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After receiving God’s magnificent grace and abundant supply throughout the generations, the Jewish nation was quick to forget and ultimately reject the God of their salvation. Frequently following God’s rescue and provision, His people would attach themselves to foreign nations for support and protection. In doing so Israel would adopt the traditions, culture, and gods common to the nation upon which they depended.

An excellent account of this occurs in Ezekiel 16 where God, through the prophet, describes how He rescued a lost, despised, and hopeless people (Israel), giving them life and identity as His own children. Using the parable of an abandoned newborn, God illustrates how He rescued and raised the rejected infant to maturity, only to have the child devote its heart to a foreign god (Ezk 16:1-19). In their idolatry, God’s people turned even to the literal sacrifice of their children.

“Moreover, you took your sons and daughters whom you had borne to Me and sacrificed them to idols to be devoured. Were your harlotries so small a matter? You slaughtered My children and offered them up to idols by causing them to pass through the fire” (Ezk 16:20-21).

When New Testament Christians read of such abominations in Scripture, we often have difficulty relating and fail to see its application. After all we no longer witness children placed in the sacrificial fire to honor Molech or Ashtoreth. But as a biblical counselor I would suggest that idolatry is alive and well and children are indeed offered on the altar of countless “high places.”

The worship of self is primary and has fragmented the biblical home into pockets of individual gratification, personal goals, rights and entitlements. Biblical order is often abandoned because God’s structure interrupts one’s selfish ambition (Phil 2:3-4), calling instead for the glory and magnification of God above all else (Mark 12:30).

Too often I counsel with Christian believers who are suffering the spiritual and physical consequences of disobedience, yet fail to understand their misplaced focus.

    There is the professional father worshiping at the idol of power and influence who is confused when he has no authority and impact with his wife and children. His wife controls the home and disregards his input. His children are rebellious and disrespectful. He complains: “I am respected everywhere except my own home.”
    There is the wife and mother devoted to beauty, fitness, social status, professional life, and “having it all” who continually feels empty, unfulfilled, and out of place. Her children are being treated for ADHD because they are distracted, disruptive, and underachieving. She laments: “I have everything I ever wanted…but I am miserable.”
    There is the man who kneels at the tower of lust but is never satisfied. He is preoccupied, obsessed, and controlled by this single longing; yet he expects his teenagers to be chaste. He can’t understand why his 16 year-old daughter is pregnant. He complains: “My children were raised in church and should know better.”
    There is the single mother who worships her current suitor; any man who might become her next husband. After all, she is entitled to be happy and her children need a father. Although she is a Christian she engages in sex outside of marriage and exposes her little ones to men who are not trustworthy. She is shocked to learn that her last boyfriend molested her son. She proclaims: “How could this happen…I am a good mother just trying to have a life of my own!”
    And there is the man who abandons his family because he lacks “chemistry” with his wife. His god is self-entitlement and his salvation is his own gratification. He sees his children less and less because they won’t accept his new girlfriend. He warns the kids: “You are going to have to adjust to my life if we are going to see each other. My new relationship comes first and you are going to have to grow up.”

I know this all sounds extreme…but each scenario comes from within the church. Each involves professing believers who have fallen subject to idolatry and their children are paying the consequence. It is a problem as old as the earth and yet to claim commonality with other sinners is simply unacceptable...

https://bcinstitute.com/false-gods-and-the-sacrifice-of-children/
  


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Re: False gods and the Sacrifice of Children
Reply #1 - May 20th, 2018 at 12:28pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 9:31am:
Dr. Ab Abercrombie

After receiving God’s magnificent grace and abundant supply throughout the generations, the Jewish nation was quick to forget and ultimately reject the God of their salvation. Frequently following God’s rescue and provision, His people would attach themselves to foreign nations for support and protection. In doing so Israel would adopt the traditions, culture, and gods common to the nation upon which they depended.

An excellent account of this occurs in Ezekiel 16 where God, through the prophet, describes how He rescued a lost, despised, and hopeless people (Israel), giving them life and identity as His own children. Using the parable of an abandoned newborn, God illustrates how He rescued and raised the rejected infant to maturity, only to have the child devote its heart to a foreign god (Ezk 16:1-19). In their idolatry, God’s people turned even to the literal sacrifice of their children.

“Moreover, you took your sons and daughters whom you had borne to Me and sacrificed them to idols to be devoured. Were your harlotries so small a matter? You slaughtered My children and offered them up to idols by causing them to pass through the fire” (Ezk 16:20-21).

When New Testament Christians read of such abominations in Scripture, we often have difficulty relating and fail to see its application. After all we no longer witness children placed in the sacrificial fire to honor Molech or Ashtoreth. But as a biblical counselor I would suggest that idolatry is alive and well and children are indeed offered on the altar of countless “high places.”

The worship of self is primary and has fragmented the biblical home into pockets of individual gratification, personal goals, rights and entitlements. Biblical order is often abandoned because God’s structure interrupts one’s selfish ambition (Phil 2:3-4), calling instead for the glory and magnification of God above all else (Mark 12:30).

Too often I counsel with Christian believers who are suffering the spiritual and physical consequences of disobedience, yet fail to understand their misplaced focus.

    There is the professional father worshiping at the idol of power and influence who is confused when he has no authority and impact with his wife and children. His wife controls the home and disregards his input. His children are rebellious and disrespectful. He complains: “I am respected everywhere except my own home.”
    There is the wife and mother devoted to beauty, fitness, social status, professional life, and “having it all” who continually feels empty, unfulfilled, and out of place. Her children are being treated for ADHD because they are distracted, disruptive, and underachieving. She laments: “I have everything I ever wanted…but I am miserable.”
    There is the man who kneels at the tower of lust but is never satisfied. He is preoccupied, obsessed, and controlled by this single longing; yet he expects his teenagers to be chaste. He can’t understand why his 16 year-old daughter is pregnant. He complains: “My children were raised in church and should know better.”
    There is the single mother who worships her current suitor; any man who might become her next husband. After all, she is entitled to be happy and her children need a father. Although she is a Christian she engages in sex outside of marriage and exposes her little ones to men who are not trustworthy. She is shocked to learn that her last boyfriend molested her son. She proclaims: “How could this happen…I am a good mother just trying to have a life of my own!”
    And there is the man who abandons his family because he lacks “chemistry” with his wife. His god is self-entitlement and his salvation is his own gratification. He sees his children less and less because they won’t accept his new girlfriend. He warns the kids: “You are going to have to adjust to my life if we are going to see each other. My new relationship comes first and you are going to have to grow up.”

I know this all sounds extreme…but each scenario comes from within the church. Each involves professing believers who have fallen subject to idolatry and their children are paying the consequence. It is a problem as old as the earth and yet to claim commonality with other sinners is simply unacceptable...

https://bcinstitute.com/false-gods-and-the-sacrifice-of-children/


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Reply #2 - May 20th, 2018 at 3:23pm
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EF wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
And those were the "good old days."

And the proverbs says there is nothing new under the sun.
  


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Reply #3 - May 20th, 2018 at 5:59pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
And the proverbs says there is nothing new under the sun.


Yep.  And some of us continue to rue that things ain't like they used to be, failing to realize they never were.
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Reply #4 - May 20th, 2018 at 8:33pm
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EF wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
Yep.  And some of us continue to rue that things ain't like they used to be, failing to realize they never were.

Let's you and I be honest and admit the enemy has taken the old sacrifice of children to a false god and given it a whole new twist.
  


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Reply #5 - May 20th, 2018 at 9:45pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Let's you and I be honest and admit the enemy has taken the old sacrifice of children to a false god and given it a whole new twist.

I don't agree.
  

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Reply #6 - May 20th, 2018 at 10:35pm
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EF wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 9:45pm:
I don't agree.

Explain, I think the piece ties it all together rather well.  We sacrifice our children to the god of self, we are not that different then those of Biblical times who sacrificed their children to the god of Baal.  Either way it is the god of this world, Satan.  He has taken what was done in the Biblical times and twisted it to be a "woman's right to choose"  when in reality it violates the 6th Commandment, no different then what Israel did.
  


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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2018 at 6:16pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 20th, 2018 at 10:35pm:
Explain, I think the piece ties it all together rather well.  We sacrifice our children to the god of self, we are not that different then those of Biblical times who sacrificed their children to the god of Baal.  Either way it is the god of this world, Satan.  He has taken what was done in the Biblical times and twisted it to be a "woman's right to choose"  when in reality it violates the 6th Commandment, no different then what Israel did.


I think the piece is mostly purple prose, intended to push and effective at pushing buttons.  Those who sacrificed their children to Baal did so because they thought that a supreme power (Baal) required it or would grant them benefits for it.  Not a big studier of such, but maybe they thought it would end (or prevent) famine.  They were wrong, of course.  Horribly wrong.

  

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EF wrote on May 21st, 2018 at 6:16pm:
I think the piece is mostly purple prose, intended to push and effective at pushing buttons.  Those who sacrificed their children to Baal did so because they thought that a supreme power (Baal) required it or would grant them benefits for it.  Not a big studier of such, but maybe they thought it would end (or prevent) famine.  They were wrong, of course.  Horribly wrong.


And so are we because we sacrifice our children to the god of self, I see similarities between the two.  There simply is no justification, short of saving the mother that is acceptable to God for the murdering of children.  Now maybe you know a verse that states otherwise but I have yet to see one where he gave an exception to the mother.
  


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Seawolf wrote on May 21st, 2018 at 8:50pm:
And so are we because we sacrifice our children to the god of self, I see similarities between the two.  There simply is no justification, short of saving the mother that is acceptable to God for the murdering of children.  Now maybe you know a verse that states otherwise but I have yet to see one where he gave an exception to the mother.


He did not mention abortion at all.  But my stand on the issue of abortion is related to secular law, not religion. 

Secular law allows a lot of things that are not acceptable to God.  Among them are: taking God's name in vain, not honoring the Sabbath, dishonoring one's parents, adultery, and envy.  There are others.  Our founders did not intend to create a Taliban like government. 


  

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