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Re: False gods and the Sacrifice of Children
Reply #10 - May 22nd, 2018 at 1:20pm
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EF wrote on May 22nd, 2018 at 10:23am:
He did not mention abortion at all.  But my stand on the issue of abortion is related to secular law, not religion. 

Secular law allows a lot of things that are not acceptable to God.  Among them are: taking God's name in vain, not honoring the Sabbath, dishonoring one's parents, adultery, and envy.  There are others.  Our founders did not intend to create a Taliban like government. 



The discussion is abortion, not cursing.   Wink
  


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Reply #11 - May 22nd, 2018 at 6:53pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 22nd, 2018 at 1:20pm:
The discussion is abortion, not cursing.   Wink


Join us in the planned parenthood thread. It's about abortion, too.
  

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Reply #12 - May 23rd, 2018 at 12:17pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 22nd, 2018 at 1:20pm:
The discussion is abortion, not cursing.   Wink


And if the discussion is God's law (not secular law), that which you call "cursing," if it includes using God's name in vain, is in the top four of the ten - those that deal with God/man relationships.  The bottom six deal with man/man relationships. 

If the discussion is secular law, the argument about sacrificing children to a god is specious.  If the discussion is God's law, one is free to observe any and all of it without requiring others to do so via legal means.

Where God's law agrees with secular law already (i.e. stealing and murder) no discussion is warranted.

God may indeed consider abortion under any circumstances murder.  He missed a good opportunity to make sure we knew that by not mentioning it in His word.  But the fact is abortion has NEVER been treated as murder under secular law, even pre Roe vs Wade. And one of our most ardent anti-abortionists has said, in his opinion, the crime of abortion need not be considered murder.  He created a new category: "abortion homicide." When asked to flesh that out, he bailed.

Another poster who says "abortion is murder, pure and simple" agrees that society will never treat it as such.  He agreed with the concept of "abortion homicide."  When asked to discuss it further, he also bailed. 
  

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Reply #13 - May 23rd, 2018 at 7:35pm
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EF wrote on May 23rd, 2018 at 12:17pm:
And if the discussion is God's law (not secular law), that which you call "cursing," if it includes using God's name in vain, is in the top four of the ten - those that deal with God/man relationships.  The bottom six deal with man/man relationships. 

If the discussion is secular law, the argument about sacrificing children to a god is specious.  If the discussion is God's law, one is free to observe any and all of it without requiring others to do so via legal means.

Where God's law agrees with secular law already (i.e. stealing and murder) no discussion is warranted.

God may indeed consider abortion under any circumstances murder.  He missed a good opportunity to make sure we knew that by not mentioning it in His word.  But the fact is abortion has NEVER been treated as murder under secular law, even pre Roe vs Wade. And one of our most ardent anti-abortionists has said, in his opinion, the crime of abortion need not be considered murder.  He created a new category: "abortion homicide." When asked to flesh that out, he bailed.

Another poster who says "abortion is murder, pure and simple" agrees that society will never treat it as such.  He agreed with the concept of "abortion homicide."  When asked to discuss it further, he also bailed. 

Are you staying you do not know where Christ stands on this issue?
  


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Reply #14 - May 23rd, 2018 at 8:10pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 23rd, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Are you staying you do not know where Christ stands on this issue?


No.
  

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Reply #15 - May 23rd, 2018 at 8:20pm
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EF wrote on May 23rd, 2018 at 8:10pm:
No.

Are you being serious, you have no idea where Jesus stands (God in the flesh) on the issue of murdering babies?
  


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Reply #16 - May 23rd, 2018 at 8:53pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 23rd, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Are you being serious, you have no idea where Jesus stands (God in the flesh) on the issue of murdering babies?


You asked:  Are you saying you do not know where Christ stands on this issue?

I answered: No. 

That means: I am not saying I do not know where Christ stands on this issue.
  

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